Need to nerf SB in Main Story Dungeon

[Aiph]

I swear, SB in main story dungeons hit a new low today. Co-tank in patrician, got him twice and just left twice after voicing my displeasure...

There needs to be a major nerf in how SB works period. SB items should have huge bonuses for the highest level stuff while low level stuff needs to be nerfed especially in uncapped dungeons. I.E. I should be able to SB ilvl 90 craftables in one go while ilvl 40-50 stuff needs to go at least 10-15 dungeons to SB.

This will encourage a better economy (can sell more of the high-end stuff) while making things go faster for those just doing dailies for tomes.

If a dungoen is uncapped, no reason why not to implement this. Tired of a bunch of ppl doing SB and making a less than 20 min run into a 40 min one

[Ronove]

Wasn't it already nerfed?

[tocsin]

Wasn't it already nerfed?

It was, in the opposite way that the OP wants.

The whole point of the way spiritbonding works is to create a penalty for overgearing yourself. SE specifically wanted to make it harder to SB ghigher ilvl items, to help the economy. harder ilvl should be more work.

Working as intended.

[DenariusJay]

Meh, I don't think a nerf to the ENTIRE system is warranted because of this. Although it wouldn't be popular, they could add a light nerf to just tankers only and spirit bonding. For instances, tank classes can only spirit bond left side ONLY if wearing tank specific items. DoW and DoM can still SB wearing "all classes" gear since some of it still applies to them anyways. But for tankers, since they are so pivotal to the survival and the smoothness of the dungeon run, SB should only work if they are wearing tank gear, nothing less. Since right side gear isn't *that* big of a deal, they can still freely SB crafter necklaces and rings, bracelets, etc. This will still allow for crafter materia to come easily at higher levels but no so much at the expense of hurting everyone in dungeon runs

It's not perfect but it could work.

[tocsin]

snip.

We already have a fair amount of trouble staffing tanks and heals for story mode runs. the more nerfs we apply to them, the longer queues will get.

Personally, I think we need ilvl sync for lvl 50 dungeons. You should not be able to run castrum in I90, it should be synced down to I55 or something. that would even the playing field to fresh 50's, and eliminate this entire issue.

[Airikay]

We already have a fair amount of trouble staffing tanks and heals for story mode runs. the more nerfs we apply to them, the longer queues will get.

Personally, I think we need ilvl sync for lvl 50 dungeons. You should not be able to run castrum in I90, it should be synced down to I55 or something. that would even the playing field to fresh 50's, and eliminate this entire issue.

They're not really tanks in full crafter gear.

[Ignnis]

Ive had mixed experiences with soul binders.

Had a monk in HM that was wearing crafting accessories and mage gear, I asked her to put on job appropriate gear, she said she will after she soul binded her current stuff then she just put on dow hat and top /head desk. Every trash group was like pulling teeth and it was a good thing I was on my WHM so I could basically ignore the tank for ages and be DPS number 2 since the monk was doing bugger all (no positioning either, just stood in front of the monster and did something I wouldn't even call a rotation), it was the most aggravating dungeon run with dps I've ever had before. This wasn't a case of newbie stupidity, she had around 6 lvl 50s.

On the flip side I was tanking WP and had s WHM soul binding level appropriate (for the dungeon) and job appropriate gear and everything was fine. Perhaps they should add SB penalties to people who are wearing dom on a dow class etc and just outright ban crafting gear from dungeons (not let you queue in DF with it on). If you are soul binding level and job appropriate gear thats fine but if you're not please stop wasting other peoples time.

[LunarEmerald]

Only jerks sb the left side. Accessories are fine since they give minor stat boosts.

[Ellatrix]

Just vote to kick anyone who's gimping the party by SB. The solution is already there, you just need to use it. And no, it isn't 'vote kick abuse' as people are so quick to throw around.



Tanking and dying in crafting gear sounds like not being helpful to me.

[Aiph]

I tried but the party was like WTF and let him stay. So I just left. SB tanking in CG and having mages with more HP than you is ridiculous.