Overhauling the Auction House system

[Nasibihc]

it does some how sound like an "I dont like undercuting thread" , after read from 1 to 5. From 6 to 9, add in a player request buy system is not better ? as in player put the price they want to pay for an item, and the seller can sell direct to the buyer with that price.

In any case, I don't feel player need to be punish because of some other ppl undercut, let's say in a scenario :Player A set a weapon on sale, a FC memeber say he is looking for that say weapon, Player A then take the weapon off the MB and give to his FC member, abd BAM lost 30% of his gil for being a good fellow, you got what I mean ?

Well I'm quite sure nobody likes undercutting, some just haven't had a problem with it. Yeah it could be good that if there was a system where people who want to buy the items put up an add and then the sellers could just take up on those and get their items sold, it's something to add to a more functioning system. What it comes to the giving weapon off to your FC member, well, then he'd just have to wait until to tomorrow to get it or a special ticket that lets you remove 1 item off the AH without the penalty in a week/month.

Whenever we can see the current price for items it will be undercut, fact.

Using the fee system can be exploited, just put another, identical item up, and wait for your item to be returned (so rather than selling a 99 stack of an item, sell a 33 stack, if that's undercut, put another 33 up, and another undercutting each time, once one hasn't sold and is returned put it back up.)
FFXI's AH was extremely easy to manipulate, showing a history of I think it was the last 10 items sold, you just need to either out some up for 1 gil (or your own price) and buy it back, do this 10 times and no one knows the current value of the item, to make people not realize you are manipulating the AH you could get friends and LS members in and all buy from each other.

The only defence against manipulation of the AH in FFXI was the fact we had FFXIAH, they had to get permission off SE to poll the AH (anything else and the only way to do it would to have a bot scanning the AH, which was against ToS) so unless SE allowed it in FFXIV that would not work.

The fact is when you have a player controlled market, people will always find ways to undercut and manipulate the market, no matter what SE does.

This is why the price update estimate is only once a day, not immediately like they did in XI. A player can't see the current prices that the items are going for, that's why the mean/median system only gives an estimate of what the items current ongoing price is, so you really don't know what to undercut. A median system PREVENTS people from putting up 10 times 1 gil items even at the very last second of the sales in the purpose of "clearing the board". That's why it will negate all the off values that aren't near the trending price. My idea was that it couldn't be manipulated with this rule in effect.

I don't even have to read your post to assume you are from FFXI. To put it simply, everything you said is just wrong. Here's why...we don't even have an auction house in this game.

Don't come and shout at other tables if you really have nothing to say

I'd like to have a system thats a mix of FFXI and WoW

WoWs auction house system was an auction house had a starting price and a sell out price. People are able to bid on items, when someone outbid them they got the money returned. In FFXI you saw what the last few prices were, now you could guess by "bidding" lower and higher until you get the item you wanted.

Now it seems like a badly regulated Marketplace. Everybody puts up their wares with prices, someone wants to sell faster and sells ridiculously low. In the real world, on big official market places, there are regulations that say "Don't break the market by being ridiculous cheap" Which doesn't say undercutting is forbidden, just don't sell something for 10 bucks when the normal price is somewhere between 800-1000 bucks.

I am against fees for putting something up. Just imagine you make a small mistake, that would be a punishment for you. Someone doing that on purpose would do it either way, because they just don't care.

Maybe a system where you will put your item on sale for 24 to 48 hours and you will also put a minimum amount of gil you want for the item and that listed price is just hidden from others. People can make bids on the item until the time runs out and whatever the highest offer is wins the item. If there are multiple of the same items in sale it will just simply place the bid randomly on one that the bid fits in to. If multiple bids are put on the said item, it will put the bids until each one has at least one bid, and it will do this over and over again until the time runs out. The bids that are placed on the items "distribute" randomly & evenly at the same time so no one is being put off on sales.