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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasibihc View Post
    Don't come and shout at other tables if you really have nothing to say
    I do have something to say and it is that if you want to play using FFXI features, go play FFXI. Take this game for what it is right now, there's a long way to go so it may, or may not, change in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    I do have something to say and it is that if you want to play using FFXI features, go play FFXI. Take this game for what it is right now, there's a long way to go so it may, or may not, change in the future.
    I never said I wanted the system to be like it was in FFXI, but combine the elements of different systems to create a better one for this game.

    Besides, why are you so negative & bent against creating something better that benefits everyone, even you? The system as it currently is, doesn't work for people who have little time to play each week for example. You put something up for sale, a minute after your price has been undercut and it won't sell until the next time the price goes up on par with yours again and that might not happen for the next week or month, leaving you unable to obtain money and advance with the game. On some occasions where the competition on selling certain items is so fierce, it forces people to stand by their retainer bell and alter the prices all the time if they want something sold without being able to enjoy the rest of the content in the game.

    Of course people have their different opinions about if the system is good or not, but I see that it has problems that affect certain conditions. Also, I know that it's not an "auction house", I wrote that post at 4:30 a.m and I've always called the place where you can buy items off the listed charts an Auction House, no matter what the used method is plus I can't edit the topic anymore to make it say different. The point of the thread isn't the fact that it's a Market Board, but the point of this thread is just about creating ideas to make the current system _better_ and if you really don't have anything to contribute whether this system is good or bad, which is the point of this whole thread, then you don't have anything to say at all. Things won't change on their own, if we don't express our opinions on the game we play and everyone has their right to do that.
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    Last edited by Nasibihc; 10-12-2014 at 09:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasibihc View Post
    Besides, why are you so negative & bent against creating something better that benefits everyone, even you? The system as it currently is, doesn't work for people who have little time to play each week for example.
    Spoon-feeding people that don't have much time to play isn't the solution. The system as it is is fine - you get out of it what you put into it. If you put a lot of work and time into farming/crafting things to sell, you make money. Simple.

    Most of what I hear in these threads is "I don't play much and I'm mad that I can't compete with players that do."

    When the price on things tanks below what I'm willing to sell mine at, I either shrug and pull them down until the market corrects itself or I leave them listed at the price I was originally wanting to sell them at. Since I sell mostly items that are needed for many crafts, eventually the undercut ones sell and the price goes back up at least somewhat. The market is cyclical by nature. Learning to profit by the cycle is key. So is patience.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 10-12-2014 at 10:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasibihc View Post
    Besides, why are you so negative & bent against creating something better that benefits everyone, even you? The system as it currently is, doesn't work for people who have little time to play each week for example. You put something up for sale, a minute after your price has been undercut and it won't sell until the next time the price goes up on par with yours again and that might not happen for the next week or month, leaving you unable to obtain money and advance with the game. On some occasions where the competition on selling certain items is so fierce, it forces people to stand by their retainer bell and alter the prices all the time if they want something sold without being able to enjoy the rest of the content in the game.
    I have my say because I pay as much for this game as you do. I have just as much as say in not having a feature changed as you do in having a feature changed. You may see negativity towards what you want but I see positivity towards what's already there. Now, I don't make lots of money off the market boards nor am I an expert crafter, I make my money through other means such as ventures, quests, maps, gathering etc. As for the Marketboard, as a buyer or seller I can say, people will pay what they want to pay and people will sell the item as low as they are willing to go. If you don't like it, tough. If someone is willing to sell the same item at a lower price than you, let them. If your item is worth the gil you are selling it for, the demand will keep the prices up. For example, look at materia. This isn't just for one server but DET IV materia went up in price since Novus. Why? Demand. People undercut on it but the prices still continue to go up, sometimes down, but it will fluctuate around a steady number. If people didn't care about the gil and wanted to undercut, do people not sell it for 100gil?
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    What's an auction house......???
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    GW2's fee system works pretty good. You might want to add that their AH is cross-server (every single server sees the same items/prices). That's kind of a huge difference compared to FFXIV's server AH.
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    I want my Bazaar back and I ought to be able to sell directly from the Market board. Run to a Bell > Summon a Retainer > Select sell from Inventory - why you no make this more simple? Also an iOS/Android app to alert you when things are sold and allow you to view your wares that are up for sale and re price or remove them via the app.
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    Emorelle Nabradia
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    I love the market system in this game. People undercut me all the time but with patience my items always sell after those are all gone.
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    I've made almost 1 million gil in about 3 weeks time playing roughly 10 hours a week, probably less. With nothing but non-unique items, I think the way it works is just fine. Just have to know how to play the board. Why does everyone call it an auction house, isn't it the Market Board? Don't really see much bidding going on.
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    More than anything, I'd like them to just remove your name from the items you sell. Recently, I had someone send me threatening tells over an item I was selling, which is a bit much if you ask me.
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