Relic and Determination Materia Oversight

[Alistaire]

Wrong, a SMN Novus can have +44 crit and +31 determination (nexus +46, +32). Your right about it being imbalanced though

That is what he said. 31 det, 31 crit, and 13 more of a secondary (other than det).

It's imbalanced because it needed to be, for the reason I stated above; the only alternative was to make each det materia use up 1.5 alexandrite, and that would just be wonky.

It would be extremely easy to implement if they so chose to, allow anyone to add 44 points of det. If you put 44 points into det, the result is 31 points on the final result. Just like every other weapon in the game. Not that I mind the current implementation, my novus and my nexus will enjoy the extra Det I get on there. It does, however, lead to some very insane prices on Tier IV Det materia as it is the must have stat for almost every novus.

However, what's more baffling is why they chose to give Det a non-standard stat weight in the first place. All of the other normal secondaries are normalized such that the amount we see on materia and gear is consistent (does not count PIE which is sort of a weird hybrid primary&secondary stat anyway).

If you did that there'd be rounding issues for people not going all the way. I'm sure all these things were discussed when planning novus and they ended up saying "ya know what, let's just leave it, let it be a small bonus for the effort, since it's the simplest way to implement it".

And yeah, det being non-standard is odd, they could have, at any point, just converted the #s into the ratio other secondaries have, round things up so people don't complain, and leave it at that. But now that novus is out there would definitely be complaints, since you'd be gimping either people with novus or people with the intent to work on it.