Uraeus/Goblin NM Broken Post 1.18 Patch

[Shai]

when a cure 1 mid fight steals hate from a glad who tuanted and voked u know its broken ive learned this from experience

This has happened to me also.

I watch War Drum & Warmonger go off then I cast Cure 2 on tank, all but the one he is hitting come toward me. GG - 1 spell stronger than 2 "enmity generators." I seen it happen, folks, but you can continue to tell me my tank needs to do better.

[Abriael]

According to people who argued with me that CON didn't get broken... that's just balancing, bro!

It is. Shows who is a good tank and who should just play DD.

[TirionCrey]

What is wrong with your tanks then? It took me 2-3 dungeon runs on the R50 dungeon, but I adapted my playstyle to the new battle system and grabbing and holding hate is no issue at all anymore.

It just seems like some people are just ignoring how things got changed.

First: Provoke I/II ARE like FFXI Provoke now! They generate enmity, instead if putting you at Nr1 in hatelist, hence the lower CD of 20sec now.

Second: Taunt is the same as before, so it actually is a "life saver" in case you lost hate for a second there and just need it right at that moment, hence the higher CD of 60sec now(on GLA)

Third: Your biggest enmity generating skils are still War Drum and Phalanx, but Provoke is right beside them now so using Provoke every 20sec is really useful to keep hate.

Other then that, tell your tanks to adapt to the new battle system and actually check what generates hate now, cause they obviously are just going with the old system and that doesn't work anymore.

[TirionCrey]

This has happened to me also.

I watch War Drum & Warmonger go off then I cast Cure 2 on tank, all but the one he is hitting come toward me. GG - 1 spell stronger than 2 "enmity generators." I seen it happen, folks, but you can continue to tell me my tank needs to do better.

Does your tank have Intimidation?

Do you have Out of Sight?

Did he use War Drum or Warmonger first? Cause using War Drum first kills the purpose of Warmonger.

I did several R50 dungeon runs so far and using my tank abilities at the start of the fight lets me keep hate on 3-4 mobs while getting Cure 2/3d by 2-3 healers at the same time w/o losing hate.

So I'm sorry, but your tank needs to get better.

[Seikninkuru]

Heals simply draw more aggro than they did before. Tanking has become challenging, but it's completely doable.

Maybe your tank should learn his job a little better

A little hint for him: Since heals now draw more aggro, he can most certanly do the same.

So your solution to being a good tank is to heal. SWEET SYSTEM BRAH.

[Murugan]

So your solution to being a good tank is to heal. SWEET SYSTEM BRAH.

The solution to being a good tank in many MMO's has always been to heal (if they have access to it at all). Heals are always, and should always be high emnity generating actions. Seriously, where did you learn to tank?

[Abriael]

So your solution to being a good tank is to heal. SWEET SYSTEM BRAH.

Never heard of paladins? Because you know, that's what's going to become the main tank as soon as jobs get implemented. Guess it may be a good idea for people that want to tank to start to get used to the idea of using heals as additional hate generators.

Mind you, dunno if you noticed, but healing yourself increase your survivability, guess what? it helps tanking.

The solution to being a good tank in many MMO's has always been to heal (if they have access to it at all). Heals are always, and should always be high emnity generating actions. Seriously, where did you learn to tank?

Please, don't make me say that...

[Shai]

Does your tank have Intimidation?

Do you have Out of Sight?

Did he use War Drum or Warmonger first? Cause using War Drum first kills the purpose of Warmonger.

I did several R50 dungeon runs so far and using my tank abilities at the start of the fight lets me keep hate on 3-4 mobs while getting Cure 2/3d by 2-3 healers at the same time w/o losing hate.

So I'm sorry, but your tank needs to get better.

Yes, Yes, You answered this question yourself and good for you. No he doesn't.
The enmity system is not working as well as it could be.

[Abriael]

Yes, Yes, You answered this question yourself and good for you. No he doesn't.
The enmity system is not working as well as it could be.

For us it works. Either we're super good, or he does need to learn to tank. I lean towards the second option.

[Elkwood]

This has happened to me also.

I watch War Drum & Warmonger go off then I cast Cure 2 on tank, all but the one he is hitting come toward me. GG - 1 spell stronger than 2 "enmity generators." I seen it happen, folks, but you can continue to tell me my tank needs to do better.

Uh huh why would you cast Cure II right away when the tank needs to BUILD hate. As my previous statement before applies you guys just suck. Tank should be using multiple abilities they never used before as well as other hate generating things. Here is another Idea if someone does manage to steal hate at the beginning.. ACCOMPLICE!

Just like in FFXI when you had multiple tanks that generated Enmity via cross cuing same tactics apply.