Do you think they will increase Atma drop rate in patch 2.4 prior to any expansion?

[Damane]

Explain to me why a new player needs fast access to a highly powered relic weapon when they have a plethora of other weapons to choose from that are essentially equivalent to the relic counterparts for only a small fraction of the time invested.

new/returning player here to answer your question:
its simple: to give them a goal. I am stuck at the atma part of my weapon and after 20 hours of fates i have 1 atma to show, its kinda getting depressing and all I am doing when I log on is atma farming and maybe 1-2 duty roulettes. Thats it. i know the other parts are a grind, but you work on them slowly, and its not only fates, but variety and stuff you do with people. Doing only fates is melting my mind atm and I am really really bored to the point where I am looseing motivation to log in at all. worst part is i am constantly solo on fate grinding, might as well just play a solo-RPG.

[Amused]

new/returning player here to answer your question:
its simple: to give them a goal. I am stuck at the atma part of my weapon and after 20 hours of fates i have 1 atma to show, its kinda getting depressing and all I am doing when I log on is atma farming and maybe 1-2 duty roulettes. Thats it. i know the other parts are a grind, but you work on them slowly, and its not only fates, but variety and stuff you do with people. Doing only fates is melting my mind atm and I am really really bored to the point where I am looseing motivation to log in at all. worst part is i am constantly solo on fate grinding, might as well just play a solo-RPG.

You don't need the relic though... just get an unidentified allagan tomestone weapon and upgrade it. If you want the relic badly enough, keep working toward it. You could even work toward it on the side while acquiring other weapons.

[Damane]

You don't need the relic though... just get an unidentified allagan tomestone weapon and upgrade it. If you want the relic badly enough, keep working toward it. You could even work toward it on the side while acquiring other weapons.

You do realize that as a new/returning player i dont have access to syrus tower right? Cant get part one of CT done because noone is interested in doing it. And 2.coil isnt even an option to consider. Your logic failed there.

So i have hit a brick wall. Cant progress on my relic, cant get alternate weapons cant join 2. Coil due to lack of gear, welcome to the world of returning/new players

[Amused]

You do realize that as a new/returning player i dont have access to syrus tower right? Cant get part one of CT done because noone is interested in doing it. And 2.coil isnt even an option to consider. Your logic failed there.

So i have hit a brick wall. Cant progress on my relic, cant get alternate weapons cant join 2. Coil due to lack of gear, welcome to the world of returning/new players

Get a Leviathan, Allagan, or Ramuh weapon then. All of those are doable without an ilvl 100 weapon.

[EllPii]

You do realize that as a new/returning player i dont have access to syrus tower right? Cant get part one of CT done because noone is interested in doing it. And 2.coil isnt even an option to consider. Your logic failed there.

So i have hit a brick wall. Cant progress on my relic, cant get alternate weapons cant join 2. Coil due to lack of gear, welcome to the world of returning/new players

You really aren't trying.
Prior Alex farm and ST, CT was dead. If you waited long enough, you could still get it done.

Leviathan wep is basically a handout.
Allagan armour from T1/2/4 is a handout with echo.
Second coil can be completed in i90 gear.


On topic: 20-30% drop rate is far too high. 1 in 4/5 chance to get an atma, you could finish it in an hour.

[Damane]

You really aren't trying.
Prior Alex farm and ST, CT was dead. If you waited long enough, you could still get it done.

Leviathan wep is basically a handout.
Allagan armour from T1/2/4 is a handout with echo.
Second coil can be completed in i90 gear.


On topic: 20-30% drop rate is far too high. 1 in 4/5 chance to get an atma, you could finish it in an hour.

ah those EX primal battles you speak fondly off. guess what I look at the PF. i see partys for EX primals (albeit they arent tha often). Item requirement: ilvl 105 or ilvl 100. I ask people to join, if its ok to join as a whm or sch ilvl 93. Answer: nope, need ilvl 105.
hey i found an ex primal battle with ilvl 95: asking if I could join. I get asked if I have kill experience. answer: no, but I have gathered infos and watched the vids so i have a good grasp whats going on. Answer: nope, we want kill exp.
2. Coil static looking for a healer: ilvl 105... asking, nope 93 doesnt cut it for them
asking in forums on some other site, people demand ilvl 105

see a trend there? This is what a new/returning player experiences that came back 2 weeks ago (and albeit didnt play much prior, maybe 2 months combined). Well guess what at some point that player wont give a ******* **** for this game anymore.
and 1. part of CT is dead nowadays.

Just my point of view.

[Marcux]

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Sounds like whining to me, for someone who can't do primals, how come you have the completion achievments? Instead of using party finder, why don't you use Duty finder, welcome to just beating the main missions 4 days ago. Sounds like laziness to me. People always want stuff handed to them, don't want to work for it...


10/05/2014
Quests achievement "Eorzea Defended" earned!

10/04/2014
Battle achievement "Going Up in Flames" earned!

10/04/2014
Battle achievement "Earth to Earth" earned!

[Damane]

Sounds like whining to me, for someone who can't do primals, how come you have the completion achievments? Instead of using party finder, why don't you use Duty finder, welcome to just beating the main missions 4 days ago. Sounds like laziness to me. People always want stuff handed to them, don't want to work for it...


10/05/2014
Quests achievement "Eorzea Defended" earned!

10/04/2014
Battle achievement "Going Up in Flames" earned!

10/04/2014
Battle achievement "Earth to Earth" earned!

because my FC is awesome and dragged me along the last few days, without them i would be stuck in nomans land! I am very thankfull to my FFXI friends that are playing 14 now, but i feel also guilty at the same time for "stealing" their time, they say they do it for fun.

I am just explaining how new/returning people without a strong FC can get stuck here atm. Showing up the flaws!

[Theresa]

You do realize that as a new/returning player i dont have access to syrus tower right? Cant get part one of CT done because noone is interested in doing it. And 2.coil isnt even an option to consider. Your logic failed there.

So i have hit a brick wall. Cant progress on my relic, cant get alternate weapons cant join 2. Coil due to lack of gear, welcome to the world of returning/new players

You're logic fail when I know new players that did Labirith pretty easy these days. You sounds like one of those people that can't stand waiting some minutes on a queue.


Looks like you're not even trying.