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  1. #81
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The tons of people you see with better weapons than atma, such as soldiary, more than likely skipped atma because better weapons ARE available that take significantly less time and don't leave you on your knees praying to the rng gods.
    You didn't read what I wrote.

    I see MORE Atma+ than Sol. MORE, not LESS

    I own an Unweatherd and a Novus, as well as a few Ramuh weapons. I am going to do more Atma farming for a second Novus in the future, and I have another Tome for a second Sol weapon (yay Sol cap). So its not like I haven't gone through all the options.
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  2. #82
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    rwyan's Avatar
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    Deeg Astra
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post


    It's all pure luck. The developers said so.
    First, I am tired of seeing statements like this without actual quotes or documentation. I can't tell you how many times someone has said, "Sorry, devs said <insert comment here>" only for it to be false or misinterpreted. My above hypothesis establishes you can improve your luck so to speak. Like I said, maybe I was just lucky, but I do have documentation and notes to support my own thoughts. I've been very hesitant to share only because of some of the nasty-grams that get posted here and there on these forums.
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  3. #83
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwyan View Post
    First, I am tired of seeing statements like this without actual quotes or documentation. I can't tell you how many times someone has said, "Sorry, devs said <insert comment here>" only for it to be false or misinterpreted. My above hypothesis establishes you can improve your luck so to speak. Like I said, maybe I was just lucky, but I do have documentation and notes to support my own thoughts. I've been very hesitant to share only because of some of the nasty-grams that get posted here and there on these forums.
    With how atma was scrutinized and researched and overly farmed upon release, if there were any true gimmick to it, it would have been confirmed by now.
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  4. #84
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Ditto on what Daemon said. Atma has been out since March. The internet would have found the secret trick at least a month or two later, not towards the end of the year.
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  5. #85
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    So did he get all 12 Atma?
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    Heli's Black Market open for business. Sells black market items for your exotic needs.

    closed for business till further notice

  6. #86
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    Q' Continuum
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    Shinryu
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    Culinarian Lv 57
    He got 11 out of almost 300 fates in 15 hours. So around a 3% droprate?

    Several others did the marathon together with him on NicoVid, some got 12, one guy got only one, other people were somewhere in between.
    RNG is RNG.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwyan View Post
    First, I am tired of seeing statements like this without actual quotes or documentation. I can't tell you how many times someone has said, "Sorry, devs said <insert comment here>" only for it to be false or misinterpreted. My above hypothesis establishes you can improve your luck so to speak. Like I said, maybe I was just lucky, but I do have documentation and notes to support my own thoughts. I've been very hesitant to share only because of some of the nasty-grams that get posted here and there on these forums.
    The very first time Yoshida openly said that Atma drops were pure RNG was back during the Tokyo Super FATE even early in the year, not long after 2.2 was realised. He even called the clock theory occultish nonsense. Since then, he has also mentioned several times in several interviews over the past half a year that that Atma is pure luck.
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  8. #88
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    If it's pure luck then they need to bring back the Luck stat from 1.0 so I can dump all my points into it.
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  9. #89
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Except that Yoshida has gone on to say, multiple times, that the RNG for Atma drops is pure luck. Not to mention, one of the forum CMs did post a message from the guy who deals with the algorithms in the game. The gist of the post was that Final Fantasy XIV uses a pure RNG algorithm. So how much Atma you get is based upon sheer luck, pure and simple.

    I am 7/12 of the Atma I need for my Black Mage relic (I'll be doing this again for Summoner, Bard, Monk, Dragoon and Ninja *when available*). I got the Atma of the Scorpion within an hour of farming FATEs in Southern Thanalan. One member of my FC STILL requires that particular Atma and that is with farming FATEs for a few hours here and there over the past couple of weeks.

    There is no magic solution that improves Atma drop rates. It is random.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  10. #90
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    Who else to blame but themselves?
    Bad game design that punishes players who want to enjoy the game and not play rat-race every three months when a new piece of broken content comes out.
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    video games are bad

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