Are CNJ's and WHM's now DD's?

[Nicobo]

btw... last weekend I ran titanHM 30times.... and I found aoe heal in CS really great, could have less care about steal aggro ^^;

[Midori_Nabooru]

In lower lvl dungeons, you can heal in Cleric (if way over geared) or just switch in and out of it. It's pretty boring just throwing a Cure out every so often. I always DPS when I can, but I'm usually running as SCH which you can basically sit in CS the entire time and let Selene take care of the healing. This is in no way saying a healer HAS to DPS, it's a bonus if we do. I do it to keep myself from getting sidetracked/bored.

[samnas]

Healing while in CS as WHM is MP inefficient, time inefficient, and DPS inefficient. You really shouldn\\\\'t do it. If you\\\\'ve got such a fear of overhealing, tell your tanks to stop sucking by Flashing/Overpowering more, PUG or otherwise; if they can\\\\'t hold aggro from reasonable healing they can\\\\'t hold from DPS actually playing well.

Open your mind a bit. A level synced whm can easily heal many of the low and mid level dungeons while never leaving CS. At the same time I dont go below 1/2 MP and the tank does not go less than half HP. There is nothing at all inefficient about that....it is just a way to get through significantly more effeciently. If I was doing so while having MP or healing issues....that makes it inefficient. Without those issues it just makes it smart.

If the tank is not level synced (ie overpowered for dungeon) then I usually have to do more stance dancing because they obviously take more damage and in larger chunks.

[Ignnis]

btw... last weekend I ran titanHM 30times.... and I found aoe heal in CS really great, could have less care about steal aggro ^^;

/sarcasm /troll???

....please...

[SeraviEdalborez]

Open your mind a bit. A level synced whm can easily heal many of the low and mid level dungeons while never leaving CS. At the same time I dont go below 1/2 MP and the tank does not go less than half HP. There is nothing at all inefficient about that....it is just a way to get through significantly more effeciently. If I was doing so while having MP or healing issues....that makes it inefficient. Without those issues it just makes it smart.

If the tank is not level synced (ie overpowered for dungeon) then I usually have to do more stance dancing because they obviously take more damage and in larger chunks.

I will agree that it's not necessary to leave CS in low dungeons, but it is still inefficient to leave it on as opposed to stance dancing. Turning CS off takes virtually 0 extra time. It's an important reflex to have later on anyways, being able to precisely control turning it on and off.

[Sebazy]

As above, stance dancing is a pretty fundamental skill to learn for healers if you really want to deliver your maximum.

In all honesty though, if you really want to squeeze every last bit of dps possible, SCH is far superior at DPSing in the sub 50 dungeons for the most part and can frequently pull a lead over proper DD jobs on typical 3-4 mob packs at the right levels. Whilst WHM's can still contribute a noticeable amount, I wouldn't loose sleep over it by comparison.

[Saseal]

I stance dance in everything (low, expert, hests) with exception that I don't feel comfortable enough with the tank or dungeon to drop into it. Then I'll DPS with it off if theres a lull, but still not trust circumstances enough to go into CS.

The only times I end up healing with CS is if I had started to DPS with CS - with apparently bad timing ('Oh gee wiz, theres a lull I can use to DPS and nothing really messing with the tank that regen isn't helping. *Hits CS*) - and the tank gets whacked good before the cool down for CS clears z.z - or if it's just that much of an unforeseen emergency to get at least a little hp on them (and no bene via CD or level sync) while I go to undo CS at the same time (you can hit the button a few seconds before the current cast finishes and it will still turn CS off).

I guess any other time I might heal in CS is if I confuse myself and think CS is off o_Oa (aka, accidental)

[Nicobo]

/sarcasm /troll???

....please...

I was serious. ^^;
Last weekend TitanHM in light bonus, so I ran it 30times.
And very often, I very closed to have aggro after the aoe heal following titan jump.
So suddenly I found the new practical usage of CS.

[Kholdy]

As a SCH in low level dungeons, I rarely have to heal. I just command the fairy to constantly heal the tank, so it keeps using Embrace even above the HP tolerance. The easiest way is to attach Embrace onto your Bio/Ruin/etc... macros. It works until Brayflox, where you have to toggle Cleric Stance to heal more often.

"Oh but a good SCH is supposed to manually use Embrace and not attach it to any macro."

Yes. That doesn't stop me from having a separate hotbar just for low level/easy dungeons.

Oh WHM, it's even easier. Wait for tank to establish enmity, then DS + Regen him, switch to CS, and DPS. You can cast Stone Skin on the tank during CS and he'll regen up. Easy. Works even in expert roulette dungeons, tank i100.

[Ignnis]

I was serious. ^^;
Last weekend TitanHM in light bonus, so I ran it 30times.
And very often, I very closed to have aggro after the aoe heal following titan jump.
So suddenly I found the new practical usage of CS.

I can't think of any words for this....I suspect the other healer in the group was having a fit watching this happen.