Now that Nexus is out... still a good idea to put piety on Blm Novus or no?

[Numenor1379]

Movement makes no difference on Piety. Tell me a use for F2 in 2nd coil. Or Ramuh. An actual fight with mechanics hurts a crit/det build more than a spellspeed build. Sure you can still get good DPS with crit/det, but you'll get better with spellspeed.

Oh geeze this crap again. How many times do I have to tell you that I DO build SSPD? Because you always seem to say I don't. As far as using F2 in SCoB, again I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about with 250 Piety you can use F2 in addition to Flare off of a Convert.

Then put accuracy on and be ready for 2.4. Better than putting a useless stat on. Putting Piety on your Novus is not just a theoretical DPS loss, it is also a Real world dps loss. And if you are going to balk at materia prices, then learn to spiritbond. Its not like you've already put in a lot of time into your Novus on the previous stages.

We've already got stupid amounts of Accuracy on our gear, easily over 500 if you push the ACC stat. I rather doubt Final Coil will be higher than that. With regards to the spiritbonding argument... did you not see my statement above saying that was the only way to really get them on my server? Regarding the real world DPS loss, please actually give REAL NUMBERS. HOW MUCH does losing 8-10 DET (or CRIT or w/e dps stat) REALLY DO?

God dude... read for once. >_<

[Uninstall]

I'll take a 46ss, 23det, 8crit Nexus over what you have anyday though. I still don't see why you choose piety as the stat to cheap out on when you could have easily melded it with crit.

[Numenor1379]

I'll take a 46ss, 23det, 8crit Nexus over what you have anyday though. I still don't see why you choose piety as the stat to cheap out on when you could have easily melded it with crit.

Sure I could, and actually I can at any point I choose right now (I've got the Alexandrite and materia sitting in my inventory to do exactly this). But what's the point?

I run a lot of solo content, as well as stuff without SCHs (not SCoB obviously). So having the 251 Piety is nice w/o having to rely on anyone else. Secondly the DPS loss is minimal, I'd be surprised it if was more than 5 (oddly enough no one seems willing to actually run the numbers to find out and I can't as I am on a PS4). Having 251 Piety gives flexibility, is cheaper than a full DET build, and is very nice for solo work.

Have several million gil or are willing to spend the time soulbonding? Sure, go the optimal route of SSPD/DET. Perhaps some day even I will. But I really question how much of an increase it is, all we're talking about here is 8 DET... just 8. It's not like we're talking 20 or 50.

[Uninstall]

You pop a NQ Mulled Tea for each time you wanna run some solo content or just use Thunder I instead of Thunder II for those situations.

[Numenor1379]

You pop a NQ Mulled Tea for each time you wanna run some solo content or just use Thunder I instead of Thunder II for those situations.

Which requires one to always have on hand. Far easier to not have to worry about it to begin with. Again, let's get some actual numbers to see what we are arguingover because frankly this is getting silly. 8 DET, 8 CRIT, 8 PIE.... Come on now, what does the real delta in DPS come to?

[Alistaire]

Which requires one to always have on hand. Far easier to not have to worry about it to begin with. Again, let's get some actual numbers to see what we are arguingover because frankly this is getting silly. 8 DET, 8 CRIT, 8 PIE.... Come on now, what does the real delta in DPS come to?

Wait...people are gimping their novus so they don't need to carry around tea???

[Zeny]

We've already got stupid amounts of Accuracy on our gear, easily over 500 if you push the ACC stat. I rather doubt Final Coil will be higher than that.

I don't have any body pieces from coil, and after looking at my novus stats I realized I would be short on ACC in T9 even with food. Not everyone can swap out i110 pieces, and rather than use i100 or i90 gear I put 12 acc on my novus. I can go back and easily replace it with more Det and Crit if I really wanted, but having the extra ACC leaves you open to more options for food. If for example you really needed that 6 PIE you could try Pineapple Ponzecakes (I hope the OP read that). Plus, me being i110 it would be a dick move rolling on any additional HA pieces unless I need even more ACC for my SMN (I kite t7 but I haven't cleared). Then I could use the option to swap out a body piece, but I'd still be under 500 ACC on my BLM.


I also agree, Uninstall.

[HaroldSaxon]

Oh geeze this crap again. How many times do I have to tell you that I DO build SSPD? Because you always seem to say I don't. As far as using F2 in SCoB, again I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about with 250 Piety you can use F2 in addition to Flare off of a Convert.



We've already got stupid amounts of Accuracy on our gear, easily over 500 if you push the ACC stat. I rather doubt Final Coil will be higher than that. With regards to the spiritbonding argument... did you not see my statement above saying that was the only way to really get them on my server? Regarding the real world DPS loss, please actually give REAL NUMBERS. HOW MUCH does losing 8-10 DET (or CRIT or w/e dps stat) REALLY DO?

God dude... read for once. >_<

You need to learn to read. How many of those accuracy pieces can be exchanged with a damage piece. Use the soldiery head, gloves and legs and neck if needs be. Plenty of other ways to drop accuracy and increase your damage.

If you ran spellspeed, you wouldn't be spamming the crappy rhetoric that bad players come out with saying "its just a theory".

You was talking about 250 piety you can use an additional F2. I asked what is the use of that in SCoB. There isn't any. So carry on facerolling filler content that can be done easily with an i90 weapon.

The difference between T5 accuracy and T6 is 16 acc (432 for T5, 448 for T6). T8/T9 469, or higher because you are hitting him from the front. Thats a 37 difference, which puts you over 500.

With regards to the spiritbonding argument; I was pointing out that you've already invested a load of time on other stages of your relic, why waste that in putting a POINTLESS stat in.

With regards to how much DPS you would lose with 8-10 det, it depends on what the rest of your stats are. I suggest using the Calculator in the other thread.

God dude, read for once. If you want to cheap out, at least put a meaningful stat on. You are the one posting unconfirmed speculation, everything contrary to your argument has been proven here and in other threads. So either put up some proof, or hush. I wont hold my breath though.