[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Dwill]

The lore is vague on what abilities a class should have in FFXIV
Arcanists universally have access to all forms of magic elemental, healing and non-elemental in the case of WoW there are three different specs their Pet specialization demonology uses DOT Space-Time and Dimensional Magic with 2 or disease spells.

FFXIV followed the WoW model for their Arcanist/Summoner but instead of staying true to the class/job decided to turn the Arcanist into a Affliction Mage mainly using diseases for DOT instead Dimensional and Space-Time Magic and the Summoner doesn't even have a Pet spec similar to Demonology.
The reason why WoW was great was because they took what Everquest did and made it 10 times better
FFXIV took the Pet class from WoW gutted it making it 10 times worse.

Everytime I read one of your post, I think you can't get worse than that yet you successfully prove me wrong everytime.

P.S. Not understanding the lore ≠ the lore being vague.

[Exstal]

Akiza is a Tumblr level troll.

[hdepaula]

Akiza, Its like she is fighting for the Acanists rights, lol get over yourself, like I said, if you dont like to throw diseases or whatever on the fiends, and you think your pet is useless, then burn the fiends or freeze them to death and join the dark side by becoming a BLM, or you can keep complaning about being an Arcanist like a baby while the creator laughs at your face cuz who are you to change his mind and his creations? if he made it that way guess what? he wanted that way, he doesnt want your opinion, he wants your money, which is sad but its the truth and, if you want to quit then youre welcome to do that too. let.it.go. be more open minded and accept the fact that you are not special, he is not going to change the Arcanist class, and he will definitely not change it because of you, you're complaining about the Arcanist class to ordinary people, people who cant do anything. We cant do anything about it, so stop.

[Akiza]

Akiza, Snip

This thread is for the developers to get feedback on classes/jobs and I'm posting my feedback. This thread is not for players to complain about other players post like what your doing hdepaula so go away unless you have feed back that you want to provide concerning the Arcansit/Summoner.

[Dwill]

This thread is for the developers to get feedback on classes/jobs and I'm posting my feedback. This thread is not for players to complain about other players post like what your doing hdepaula so go away unless you have feed back that you want to provide concerning the Arcansit/Summoner.

I'm pretty sure any sane developers have already put you on a list of feedback to ignore.

[Dyvid]

[Akiza]

This thread is poll to see how many people want to see the Arcanist/Summoner Class/Job reworked and I voted yes not for how many players can complain about others ideas. Players could've suggested ideas similar to mine using the in game suggestion system there are always players suggesting a Arcanist/Summoner rework during the live letter so I'm not the only one who wants to see the class improved upon. If we listen to all the negative players on the forum nothing will ever change and get better.

[BloodPact]

This thread is poll to see how many people want to see the Arcanist/Summoner Class/Job reworked and I voted yes not for how many players can complain about others ideas. Players could've suggested ideas similar to mine using the in game suggestion system there are always players suggesting a Arcanist/Summoner rework during the live letter so I'm not the only one who wants to see the class improved upon. If we listen to all the negative players on the forum nothing will ever change and get better.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a different playstyle for Summoner. After all, that's what the creator of this thread made it for. There are, however, many things wrong with stating opinions as if they were facts, misinforming the other posters with inaccurate information and denying or rejecting valid points.

It is also expected that people who suggest opinions take into consideration the boundaries and restrictions that a character needs to have that would not make its class stand out among the rest in terms of damage, ease of use and many other factors that need to be weighted in the equation. Some of the posts in this thread are stupid (and I'm being nice).

The future of Summoner is already decided. They have already given the answer here on the forums and you already have an example for future egi models with Ramuh's adds. They follow the same style that our current models have. If Summoner is to change at all it will be in 3.0 and it will be because of an entire Armoury System overhaul, meaning fine tuning abilities and maybe adding/taking a couple of abilities to jobs/classes. The essense of the jobs, however, is here to stay. This means that Summoner will be a DoT caster who is supplemented by a pet.

[Exstal]

If we listen to all the negative players on the forum nothing will ever change and get better.

This is quite possibly the only sensible thing you've ever said. But the reverse is, if we listen to every hair-brained, poorly fleshed out ideas then everything will change and for the much worse. So please, use your intellect when designing. Or stop posting. Whichever is easier.

[IceSpear]

Every game is different, this is just a different game with a different playstyle.