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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Yeah the DPS check is insane! I can't believe the item level requirement for Ramuh is i85. Item level freakin' 85! DPS won't make the check consistently without i100 at the least. Not that it's a bad thing, I understand why SE would let you go in there being i85. So people can get their paws wet and know how out of their league they are when they try going there under geared

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    It's cause the Japanese players are better at this game than the rest of the world... :x
    At least I can speak for Americans, we are playing for amusement only to maybe pass the time. This is about as involved as watching Game of Thrones or something to westerners while eating dinner with one hand and maybe we just have our non dominant hand moving our character around.... If we played it like we were actually playing a sport outdoors we'd do better, or, if we played like how people drive so aggressively on the freeway... lol

    Different folks, different attitudes on what's fun.
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    Mog Net
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    It's cause the Japanese players are better at this game than the rest of the world... :x
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFNSUewb7CI
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I was simply trying to say that there are players from other countries that are as good as and better than a lot of JP players.

    BG did after all beat Twintania world first (prior to the nerf) and T9 world first. So you've got to give them credit where credit is due.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Order of the Blue Garter would like a word with you.
    Depends on what you are comparing, actually. In JP servers, on a general level JP players does operate more seamlessly and does less flops than EN players.

    If you are talking about top flights, you should not under estimate Lucrezia. They have shown what they are capable of with their world first savage coil clears. I believe they would be contending for world firsts in the next coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Depends on what you are comparing, actually. In JP servers, on a general level JP players does operate more seamlessly and does less flops than EN players.

    If you are talking about top flights, you should not under estimate Lucrezia. They have shown what they are capable of with their world first savage coil clears. I believe they would be contending for world firsts in the next coil.
    Cherie's comment was a blanket statement, I was pointing out that it was incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    It's cause the Japanese players are better at this game than the rest of the world... :x
    At least I can speak for Americans, we are playing for amusement only to maybe pass the time. This is about as involved as watching Game of Thrones or something to westerners while eating dinner with one hand and maybe we just have our non dominant hand moving our character around.... If we played it like we were actually playing a sport outdoors we'd do better, or, if we played like how people drive so aggressively on the freeway... lol

    Different folks, different attitudes on what's fun.
    LOL nothing but a weeaboo

    I'd like to see any Japanese raid group go up against Method, Blood Legion, or Paragon or any of the top 25 wow raiding guilds. No chance...
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    I have gotten to like 5-10% on ramuh in df twice, still no win for me. I find it generally ok, and so do ppl in df it seems, but the dps check ian't often passed. Then for some reason once people got that down, rolling thunder seems to ruin it then. Theres tons of time to even type "ok I will collect orbs", but even then, more often than not, ppl will self rape themselves casting def buffs or w/e. out of sheer panic.

    I think echo will make ramuh a joke tbh. More ppl will be passing the dps check, and all that' left is to deal with rolling thunder. It's pretty much just the same thing for whole fight, but arbiters and rolling thunder added in.

    One thing that does amuse me though is "TS is a must" in pf. I mean, do ppl gotta make it even easier?
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    i85 just needs to use an LB and might even have LB2 available normally. i100+ doesnt need lb and will only have lb1 available if dps is poor anyway
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    You're the one that started world first comparisons when it was never about them and about general pugs, and I can assure you that JP pugs blow the NA player base out of the water by average.
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