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    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Jan 2012
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms View Post
    What other reason does a new player have to join a party posted in PF that is devoted strictly to farming or asking for previous winners only?
    People joining a group with no intention of following the group's rules are at their own risk, again GMs can enforce group rules - I'd highly recommend anyone joining a group they're not setup for to ask first. Not only can you get socially ostracized with blacklists but also there is a possibility of a punishment/warning from SE.

    A button however will make all of this easier and more popular*, farm parties existing does not bother me - it becoming an incredibly popular, easy, strong option I see as being a danger to social structure, and from certain perspectives also game wise. A bit different scenario, so don't mistake me saying they're "exactly" the same, but in 1.0 I spent 5 hours shouting for 3 people to just lend their bodies for Ifrit (easy easy mode), as content gets old we don't need any more barriers for new people.

    Systems I've tried to suggest in this thread try to train players to a higher standard but attempt to keep social hoops as low as possible, they're a bit of a compromise I know.. but if the Maat ARR fight or Echo Training dungeons are not poorly made it would at least get players to a level a veteran could hopefully work with without abundant hair pulling stress (and help new people become veterans with less stress).

    *amount of new exclusions and new consistency of pure enforcement is hard to say, but it is easy to assume that easy to do actions that make other actions easier are preferred and thus popular.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-02-2014 at 02:38 AM.