Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[DenariusJay]

snipz.

Yeah, all good advice/points. And yeah, I'm aware DF is not for learning. But sometimes you don't really have a choice. Server gets slow; PF takes forever, I have things to do - DF is the easiest and most convenient way to just get into the content. I don't go in blind anymore, I always read a guide or watch a video so I have some half ass knowledge but nothing beats just getting in there and taking the beating. It just sucks when you get entitlement from both sides, those that use DF hoping for the pure clear & farm and those using it going in blind hoping for carry. Both mindsets are ridiculous when you think about it. I like think of DF as the middle grown, its the place to go to just get experience, if you clear it, great! If not, oh well - you got the practice to be able to form a PF and try and clear it on your home server. Its to random to try and control it for anything else (farming party or pure learning)

[Eidolon]

Counter-snipz!

I think you're a minority of the mindset, and I don't think that in a bad way. Not a lot of people are willing to give as well as they take in regards to DF - most people want it all one way or another. I respect the fact that you read up before going into DF, and go in prepared to learn the mechanics first-hand. There should be those who are more experienced, in that case, who are willing to teach and work with you to find a strategy that works for you.

Sadly, not a lot of people are willing to go even half way to read a guide, and believe the DF is there to tell them what mechanics they need to handle. So, I think you've got the right mindset - and no one meeting you halfway is a problem with the community.