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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo94 View Post
    This is were the difference in free company and personal housing is, Only you can do whatever you want to your house. If you want a house with your friends make a free company :| it really is that simple.
    As has been stated, I'm not going to abandon my free company of 30+ people I talk to on a daily basis so I can make my own free company of JUST my boyfriend and I and spend months leveling it to get something that should be an option in the first place. Can you not see what a ridiculous suggestion that is?

    And as has ALSO been said, this literally has no negative side to it. I can't imagine why anyone would be against this.

    I guess some people just like to be difficult...

    Quote Originally Posted by KinmeKenshin View Post
    Let's assume we use our friend list to assign privilege like how you currently do for FC house. Since there is no rank system in friend list (e.g. best friend, hi-bye friend). You can only assign the particular privilege to all or none of your friend.

    Privileges1: Using stable = OK
    Privileges2: Plant and harvest garden = Dangerous
    Privileges3: Decorating house, removing furniture, change exterior = Dangerous
    Privileges4: Setting access rights to my house = Dangerous

    Most of us have large friend list that has people we called friend but not enough to trust our entire house to them. I don't hand my house key to my friend in r/l either.

    So to make this work in the current system, I will have to remove most of my friends.

    Or SE needs to setup some kind of ranking system that allows me to categories all my friends and assign them different privileges so we could share our resources. But I think that's called setting up a Free Company.
    I think you've completely misunderstood what this is asking for, but a simple fix: A check box next to each friend on your list (or a separate menu within housing) that you can check if you want that individual friend to have access to your house.

    Easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    Right, you were not asking for a FC House without association with a FC,
    In fact it should be a house that is more flexiable than a FC house. ^^;

    So why not suggest implement "Personal Company",
    let every Personal House owner get a FC-liked menu to manage their house,
    the member/permission setting would become friend/permission settings.

    Moreover, personal company credit/action could be added as well,
    by doing this, personal company crest aslo will be available! Good?
    No. I'm sorry but that's not what most of us want at all.
    I don't want anything formal, I just want to share a house with my boyfriend and best friend. That's it. I know I'm not alone.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 09-30-2014 at 02:01 PM.

  2. #42
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    I know what you want. You want SE to developed a new feature with their limited resources. However, if you look at the way SE implement personal housing. They simply reuse what they have and give it to us. This is FC housing re-badged with minus FC access control.

    So if you want something from SE, realistically, it needs to be there already. Which is the FC access control they took out. So I was suggesting, the only feasible way for them to implement this back is to have it on top of your friend list. But clearly, this will NOT work. As friend list has no ranking system like FC.

    If this is so important to you, I would really suggest you to create your own FC. It really does not take long for both of you to level it to rank 6. It will be a few weeks. Plus, FC house you can hand it around to close friends to look after while you take a break easily (just make them FC master). Whereas, who know if they will take away the personal house from you if you are inactive for 30days.
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    OMFG it's not brain surgery people they just want the ability to allow people to stay in their house... Just add permissions, bam you're good. If you can't wrap your head around what that would be like let's look at EQ2 housing (yes again..) ;

    You can set permissions on all your homes as to who is allowed to come in and shop, who is allowed to stay in and pay rent. Basically it allows other people besides yourself to use the house. It's simple, it works. And I'll never understand why SE insists on cutting our legs from under us time and again by implementing over complicated systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KinmeKenshin View Post
    I know what you want. You want SE to developed a new feature with their limited resources. However, if you look at the way SE implement personal housing. They simply reuse what they have and give it to us. This is FC housing re-badged with minus FC access control.

    .
    If they gave people the ability to share personal houses. It would SAVE on those limited resources, as some people could share a house instead of having individual houses thus using less resources.
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    Considering the personal house costs the same as an FC house, I don't see why just don't have FC-like permissions. At a bare minimum, maybe allow people on friends list access and not just global access? How about a storage chest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KinmeKenshin View Post
    I know what you want. You want SE to developed a new feature with their limited resources. However, if you look at the way SE implement personal housing. They simply reuse what they have and give it to us. This is FC housing re-badged with minus FC access control.

    So if you want something from SE, realistically, it needs to be there already. Which is the FC access control they took out. So I was suggesting, the only feasible way for them to implement this back is to have it on top of your friend list. But clearly, this will NOT work. As friend list has no ranking system like FC.

    If this is so important to you, I would really suggest you to create your own FC. It really does not take long for both of you to level it to rank 6. It will be a few weeks. Plus, FC house you can hand it around to close friends to look after while you take a break easily (just make them FC master). Whereas, who know if they will take away the personal house from you if you are inactive for 30days.
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    I'm not going to abandon my free company of 30+ people I talk to on a daily basis so I can make my own free company of JUST my boyfriend and I and spend months leveling it to get something that should be an option in the first place. Can you not see what a ridiculous suggestion that is?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    As I keep saying. Having an FC of only 2 people would be freaking pathetic and boring, and would completely ruin my social experience in this game.
    I understand where you are coming from though, really I do, but a simple permissions list would not be a hard thing to implement.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    OMFG it's not brain surgery people they just want the ability to allow people to stay in their house...
    Thank you.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    You can set permissions on all your homes as to who is allowed to come in and shop, who is allowed to stay in and pay rent. Basically it allows other people besides yourself to use the house. It's simple, it works. And I'll never understand why SE insists on cutting our legs from under us time and again by implementing over complicated systems.
    This is not simple at all. You are asking SE to implement a complicated access system, where you can set permission on who can use (garden, stable, FC chest, shops) on individual player on your friend list. This is even more detailed than FC access system, where you can only set permission on rank. What SE implemented is what you called simple. Everybody in or out, nobody has any permission apart from the owner of the house. EQ2 has the best housing system and FF XIV has the worse housing system in the history of MMO. How could you even put them on the same table and compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellisin View Post
    If they gave people the ability to share personal houses. It would SAVE on those limited resources, as some people could share a house instead of having individual houses thus using less resources.
    I believe they want everyone to spend millions on a personal housing to create a gold sink for the economic and even more millions decorating it individually. They will add more servers, they will double it next patch and further adding more. Maybe, they really don't want people to share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KinmeKenshin View Post
    I believe they want everyone to spend millions on a personal housing to create a gold sink for the economic and even more millions decorating it individually. They will add more servers, they will double it next patch and further adding more. Maybe, they really don't want people to share.
    Which doesn't actually address anything about what I said about giving the ability to share saving limited resources which was the point I replied to.

    Even so, that they're doubling land & probably adding more. At current rate, it still not going to match demand (there is apparently 2.5 million players) any time soon.

    Where as giving the ability to share will help ease demand somewhat (on those limited resources which was one of your points against this), as some can share with their friends until space & resources come available to allow them to buy their own house. Also there are people who clearly want to share house with friends so there is a demand for a sharing feature.Plus giving people ability to share is not going stop them being a gil sink. Because allowing me to set it so only my friends could enter my house and use certain features is not going remove their individual desires (if they have that inclination) for their own house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KinmeKenshin View Post
    Everybody in or out, nobody has any permission apart from the owner of the house. EQ2 has the best housing system and FF XIV has the worse housing system in the history of MMO. How could you even put them on the same table and compare.
    Well I don't want EVERYBODY IN. I would like just my friends to be able to enter. Pretty simple.

    Allow only friends to enter .. tick.

    Done sorted, I'm happy bunny.

    Similar system could be used for a limited number of features such as retainer bell, or merchant/mender npcs.

    If FFXIV is the worst housing system ever and EQ2 is best ever. Then naturally people are going look towards the best ever for suggestions on ways to improve the poorer system.
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