Why shouldn't someone be allowed to watch the cutscenes on first playthrough?

[MeiUshu]

@Kaethra

you are right but in a game like this, where both sides believe they have all the rights either one side or the other, there cannot be a compromise, there cannot be a solution. To be honest, those that watch cutscenes are using the tool as intended, those that want to speedrun arent, can speed runers speed run yes, should a non speed runer first timer be kicked ? no...which is the crunch of the point...speedrunners believe they can kick anyone that is not in agreement with them it has nothing to do with you helping or not helping it has to do with a misuse of a tool intended for story and used to speed run to the detrimental of those that want to enjoy the story and are in the right place for it. The compromise in here is already made for everybody, those that go in this dungeon get an extra reward for the loss of time so what other compromise can there be ? is already set and quite clear.

The verbal abuse is wrong in any situation but when there are no sanctions and reporting is not going to lead you anywhere as already stated that SE do not mix into player squabble, self entitled is by default authorized and in this category the weaker, understand newby, will pay the price of this self entitlement attitude, alas.

Mei

[Kaethra]

you are right but in a game like this, where both sides believe they have all the rights either one side or the other, there cannot be a compromise, there cannot be a solution.

I disagree. Now I want to be quite frank and clear that I am not supporting anyone who verbally abuses newbies or does things to make their lives miserable like vote kicking or harassing them. As I've said numerous times in this thread, I do NOT allow my fellow vets to do this. As a healer most of the time, I have quite a bit of leverage when it comes to that.

And the majority of the time there is normal people who don't care either way. They aren't as vocal as I am, though. Its not like half the group is newbies being harassed by the other half. Its usually only one or two, and I've actually never personally seen a vote kick come up for someone. Not to say it doesn't happen. I'm sure it does, but I doubt it is as common as the OP and some other posters here say it is.

Point here is, those of us who are on the fence so to say, and don't mind if people watch cutscenes as long as we can clear trash. Shouldn't be demonized like I have been by several posters in this thread. That causes resentment. That could lead to the blame being put on the newbies and cause more instances where they are harassed and vote kicked. I want to prevent that. I want players to just get along with each other.

I'll be honest the gaming community as a whole has gone to crap since 2003. Before that, I used to play EQ. A game where you could really troll your fellow players by training, ninja looting, and other asinine things. But we didn't do that to each other. It happened, sure. But those who did it were held accountable. Most times disagreements were worked out and understandings were concluded. These days, people will just troll each other on one said, and then others will go to a game forum and make post and thread to devs to 'fix' a problem they could probably fix themselves.

I seriously think this issue is one we can fix ourselves. All we have to do is understand one another and work towards a common goal (completion of the dungeon).

[leparadox]

Just how exactly we are going to fix this? You think others will listen to reason? You think they will wait if asked r e a l l y nicely? My guess is.... no!