It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[Yshnal]

If there can be a Savage Mode, I don't see why they can't do a Story Mode for those on the other side of the spectrum. Come on, what the OP suggested is not going to give any drops, it wouldn't ease the access to the new turns, and it would make happy quite a lot of people it seems. Gear upgrades and the echo buff can't help you with some of the mechanics, nor with people that for any personal reasons can't perform well (yes, they do exist and that doesn't make them any less than someone else).

YouTube is not going to help these people. They don't pay the game to go watch a YouTube video made by someone else featuring said person's character. They pay to play the game and see it by themselves. They may not have the time or the skill to beat it as it is but, as I say, if there can be a Savage Mode I think that these other people should get their own version too.

A game should be made for all its players, not for the hardcore, not for the casuals, not for the "pros", not for the "noobs", not for the PvPers, not for the "carebears", and not for the "whateveryouwanttocallsomeoneelse". Why do you always have to be against anything that doesn't fit your very own playstyle? If it makes sense and it doesn't detract from the other playstyles, as it's the case, support it and let other people have something to enjoy the game to the same level that you do, FFS.

Maybe it will require some time and some resources, yes, but I can assure you that it would require way less resources to simplify it for what has been suggested than to make the harder versions. And it would last way more than said versions, as I'm sure that the Story Mode would be the one that most people would play in the coming years when it's obsolete (to see the story quickly and start playing the relevant content at that time), not the Savage or Normal Modes that will only be really meaningful for a couple of months to a year, max..

I'm all for it. Let everyone see the content, even if it's a year after it's released (as it's the case of T1-5).

[Nghthawk]

This thread was a good read at work, it got me into trouble for laughing so hard as some of the posters!

On a side note for those who are bringing up sections of the live letter with Yoshi saying "Yes I would like to do this" you only need to look back at his past record.
* Hunts
* Housing
* WTF is the api so we can develop addons (was suppose to be 6 months after release) ** I've already started to develop my own because I'm tired of waiting, it's one broken statement after another with Yoshi.

I wouldn't hold your breathe on this coming to bear, for pete sakes just do the content. Name one MMO where everyone has access to get everything without any work involved, if you only have a hour a day you're better off not playing as you are losing money. It took me on my alt 1 hr to clear T5 with all new people just by explaining the fight to them.

[Violyre]

At first hell no it's about the clear and the loot. I didn't watch t9s CS until after my 7-8 clear.

But a year later when the drops are useless, the story is the main attraction. (Or gaining access to the next coil)

And that's the basic argument right now. People say that the story has to be earned, but I'd bet a majority were all in it only for the loot. T1-5 drops are outdated gear, even by pieces sold for soldiery and matched by pieces from myth.

The story is the biggest reason to run T1-5.

When Third Coil is released, I'm sure there will be equivalent gear to Second Coil available. No one hardcore into raiding has a reason to go back to the earlier ones.

[Apricoth]

I'm curious though, how much of a challenge would you want it to be? There has to be a challenge to it, else you can just read a book or watch a movie instead.



So true, I and a lot of others still did sky in FFXI after having everything from that place.

"Challenge" is relative. What you believe is easy peasy lemon squeezy might be great difficulty for another to overcome. I cannot answer this question.

[Souljacker]

Isn t this the description of online gaming ? O.o
i mean if you cant do online-game basics...it s maybe not the game that have to change ?

I hardly think that some of the boss fights we are talking about are "online basics". You also missed the part of the post you quoted where I said "Sometimes it's not about you. Sometimes it's about the people and internet connections around you that you cannot control."

Aside from that, I was responding to a very specific statement regarding your comparison of an offline game to an online one. If you can limit our discussion to online gaming and the challenges to overcome in an online game, great. You threw in a petty comment about an offline one and I responded to it.

[Crysten]

So people are asking for dev resources to be focused on creating more recycled content (and content that offers zero incentive for repetition, no less!) rather than new, interesting things? You guys want more stuff like Ramuh and Levi Hard modes? Does anyone realize what a colossal waste of resources that would be considering the point of an MMO is to keep people playing?

Are you guys for real?

The only way I would even justify resources to be used that way is if T5 became an instance where you simply walk up to Twintania and slap her in the face (probably because if it's a one time shindig, it kinda needs to be anticlimactic and maybe a little hilarious). The time it would take to re-design, re-test and re-develop that fight is time you'd be taking away from the devs to make things like Chocobo Mario Kart, Whack-a-Mandy or Cloud's Cross-dressing Challenge in the Gold Saucer.

If you can't attempt content at the current level, then you hold out until a point where you can. In my case, I'm waiting gleefully until 2.4 when I can start doing SCoB casually with friends when they finally remove the stupid lockout, and I'll be doing the same with Final Coil come 2.6.

[Violyre]

So people are asking for dev resources to be focused on creating more recycled content (and content that offers zero incentive for repetition, no less!) rather than new, interesting things? You guys want more stuff like Ramuh and Levi Hard modes? Does anyone realize what a colossal waste of resources that would be considering the point of an MMO is to keep people playing?

Are you guys for real?

I didn't see people complain about recycled content when Savage mode was released, and as I understand, that's just Second Coil with bigger numbers.

Now no one get me wrong, I am not for or against the proposal. I've come to terms with the fact I'll never clear Turn 5. I understand that I should not have the best gear if I can't earn it. Storyline is different, especially from a game branded "Final Fantasy." I think the best solution would've been to segregate the story and the raid. Don't ask me how, I'm not that smart.

[Shadex]

The responses to this thread have turned into one huge elitist Limit Break. Except instead of a meteor a huge tea*** comes down. Sad thing is there will be people that read that and go, 'hellz jeah! they shud totally add that!'

[Andybell256]

My friend Audacity asked me to post this, as he has hit his forum post limit for the day:

I may have a solution for you OP:



According to your lodestone, You cleared Turn 5 in April. So therefore. If you want to view your cutscene so badly, you can do so from the comfort of your inn room.

But it begs the question, How the hell did you forget that you killed Twin 6 months ago, And why have you made a thread begging SE to let you have an easy kill when you in fact, Killed this fight without echo and when the lockout was still in place?

It could only mean a couple of things

1: You're not the original owner of your account
2: You got massively carried or had ingested a large amount of foreign substance during your turn 5 kill.

To be honest I'm not sure what's worse, Not being able to kill Twin with Echo or the above 2 points.

Or maybe you're just the best troll ever and have managed to lead a large number of people on for 26 pages. Which in that case. GG, well played, Thanks for coming.

Enjoy your cutscene!

-Aud

[MageBlack]

It will most likely happen once 3.0 comes out. I wouldnt hold your breath until then...