It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[Shioban]

They're already adding this, please read the last live letters translation notes.

The development team are very aware content will become redundant and people won't want to do it anymore, whether this is a story mode or not who knows, they did state they'd let people either solo or go in smaller parties (or custom parties),


TL;DR They are adding something like this already, it's been confirmed. I don't know why you're crying about it here.



You can read the original post if you want but its arbitrary to my actual point.

I shouldn't have to[/B] sit for 2 hours or more doing nothing before I can even attempt something.

This is where the self-indulgent problem comes in "I feel I'm important enough that they HAVE to fit around my schedule and needs".

The story was designed for the people who wanted to do raid content, we can't have everything we want in life by kicking and screaming for it.

There is plenty of content in the game besides BCoB to enjoy, just because you don't have the time doesn't mean it HAS to be added.



But as I've already mentioned, perhaps I need to emphasise it to get the point across ;

"THEY ALREADY HAVE PLANS TO ADD THIS, I DONT KNOW WHY YOU'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT, PLEASE READ THE LAST LIVE-LETTER"

I won't bother you, promise, just want to enjoy what the game wants to give me but the stupid static/PF requirements refuse me

This is not. Since SE added major storyline (Carteneau Battle's end) behind it. CT is separate content. Coil isn't.

It IS separate content, as the developers have even stated on numerous occasions, The Binding Coil of Bahamut is raiding content, designed to be a challenge for the players who want to try out the most difficult content in the game (with a reward for doing so), that was its design and intention.

The reason CT/Praetorium/Primals/Dungeons/Dailies/Roulletes are separated content is to give a balance (as Yoshi-P has touched on may times) between Hardcore and Casual game content.


The developers want to strike a balance, but this requires time. Adding in THREE different tiers for content is a lot of work and a lot of time spent, which is why it's BEING DONE IN THE FUTURE AND NOT NOW.

You simply need to be patient and WAIT FOR IT TO BE ADDED.

[Taruinatho]

You're right, that was a little harsh. The point more was "if you downed Twintania -that fast- I strongly suspect you had a lot of help from people who cleared it already". I beat Rafflesia in a single session and Melusine after a week of raiding but I don't claim I have some sort of superior skills, because I know I owe it in part to the four or five T9-experienced players also in the group who advised, guided, and aided me through it.

If only there were people who've cleared this content and had made guides and successful strats public for your reading and viewing pleasure. No one does extra credit, right?

[scarebearz]

My first kill. This group was a mix of more capable players from 2 statics. We put in about 2 and a half hours practice one day then killed it on our second attempt the next.

"more capable players for 2 statics", sounds like most of them had already had a fair bit of exp on T5...

[brewbane]

This my friends is what is known as "mad".

we're all born mad. some remain so.


or something like that.


also, this thread is too serious.

[Audacity]

You're right, that was a little harsh. The point more was "if you downed Twintania -that fast- I strongly suspect you had a lot of help from people who cleared it already". I beat Rafflesia in a single session and Melusine after a week of raiding but I don't claim I have some sort of superior skills, because I know I owe it in part to the four or five T9-experienced players also in the group who advised, guided, and aided me through it.



I pointed this guy out to my buddies in TK (an Excal guild) and they said that in general the average skill level is a fair bit higher there (makes sense, lots of XI and 1.xx vets). So maybe he's just gotten used to it and thinks such extraordinary skill level is the norm?

Please point out where I said that I have "superior skills"?

[Shioban]

"more capable players for 2 statics", sounds like most of them had already had a fair bit of exp on T5...

It takes more than two players to carry an entire group through T5.


At the end of the day, people who consider themselves casuals have had no issues clearing T5, especially after the echo buff was added.

Players who consider themselves terrible at the game are able to beat this turn, it really isn't that difficult.



Considering the game already hands absolutely everything over to you, it's nice to have some integrity of difficulty or challenge.

[Audacity]

"more capable players for 2 statics", sounds like most of them had already had a fair bit of exp on T5...

Yes. My static had a few hours of practice before Me, Piz and Cres merged with that static for the kill. The same people in our static were the ones screwing us over and we wanted the kill before they nerfed the fight. So in total I spent about 6 hours in turn 5 before my first kill.

[Souljacker]

The elitism is strong in this game...

I am a big fan of what Blizzard did with tiered raiding. Elitists still have their hard modes, and casual folks can enjoy the story. It doesn't have to be a dropless run, but the ilevel can be a lot lower than the normal and hard modes drop. It works great over there. Don't add echo buffs to normals and hards. Just have a duty finder tiered difficulty level that pugs can reasonably be expected to get through.

Another case of something SE could learn from what other developers have already been through.

[Taruinatho]

The elitism is strong in this game...

I am a big fan of what Blizzard did with tiered raiding. Elitists still have their hard modes, and casual folks can enjoy the story. It doesn't have to be a dropless run, but the ilevel can be a lot lower than the normal and hard modes drop. It works great over there. Don't add echo buffs to normals and hards. Just have a duty finder tiered difficulty level that pugs can reasonably be expected to get through.

Another case of something SE could learn from what other developers have already been through.

Maybe you've heard of Crystal Tower?

Not the same area or storyline, but to a degree, their answer to your need.

[Shioban]

The elitism is strong in this game...

I am a big fan of what Blizzard did with tiered raiding. Elitists still have their hard modes, and casual folks can enjoy the story. It doesn't have to be a dropless run, but the ilevel can be a lot lower than the normal and hard modes drop. It works great over there. Don't add echo buffs to normals and hards. Just have a duty finder tiered difficulty level that pugs can reasonably be expected to get through.

Another case of something SE could learn from what other developers have already been through.

That's the thing, the troubles most people are having here are basic mechanics, or that they simply don't have enough time to learn the mechanics.
People who can't dodge, silence or follow the basic flow of the fight can be fixed over time, but some people don't want to wait.
As for the ones who don't have enough time, there's no real remedy for that besides stripping the fight bare and making it a zerg-fest like CT.

They'd have to completely redesign the fight in order to accommodate this.

That's why it would be a nightmare for them to currently focus on, which is why they're not doing it just yet but are simply planning it for now.