what happened to inner beast?

[SpookyGhost]

Sometimes, when the group in general was over geared especially the healers, such things were possible. Warrior was at a mathematical disadvantage that needed severely fixed. That war who cleared t4 likely did so on the backs of some excellent healers.

WAR was actually a better OT than PLD in 2.0 for T4, mainly due to the snap threat + damage. Berserk + Bloodbath was still no joke and IB/SP was rarely used as OT in T4, the only real changes now are that OP is faster, SC is actually worth it, and Vengeance has a damage reduction tied to it now. Things are definitely better for us post-2.0, but T4 was never really a problem in the first place.

Unless, of course, this WAR MT'd T4... in which case he was definitely carried by his healers. I also remember a 2.0 2x WAR comp completing T5, to which most people congratulated the healers on a job well done. :P

[Zoeila]

i miss the old inner beast healing and i feel warrioirs self heal motif has been compromised now adays an inner beast crit could of been able to heal for over 3k hp

[RiceisNice]

Doesn't matter if he had excellent healers or not the fact that he was able to make it that far and beat it was an amazing feat that no one else could do

I'm pretty sure that a tank requires healers to stay alive... Which means the testament of a tank getting through content more on the healers than the tank, no?

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From what I've seen, MTing and OT are different beasts all together. You'd prefer a tank who's capable of getting high aggro really fast on the spot, as well as being able to put up a good amount of damage during off times to be OT. Though the topic is more on the war/pld comparison for tanking in general. There shouldn't be a huge difference in potential between the two tanks no matter the tanking task.

[Rbstr]

Inner Beast is great since it provides really high uptime mitigation against "tank killer" mechanics like Death Sentence and Raven's Beak. And it helps top you up to take those hits. This is much, much better than it healing for 3x as much but with no mitigation.

I think that Bloodbath should be stronger and I wish for better cross-class skills (or, at least some kind of buff to the ones we do get featherfoot does nothing at all in SCoB, second wind is little more than rounding error), but IB was definitely buffed with the changes as was Warrior as a whole.

[SevValen]

I'm pretty sure that a tank requires healers to stay alive... Which means the testament of a tank getting through content more on the healers than the tank, no?

im aware that tanks need healers but seeing as the old ib gave a big heal im sure that move helped alot in keeping him alive not just the heals from healers.

[RiceisNice]

im aware that tanks need healers but seeing as the old ib gave a big heal im sure that move helped alot in keeping him alive not just the heals from healers.

Healing does not save you from getting one shot'd/eating 90% of your hp from death sentences being weaved into auto attacks, and especially when it places a healing debuff on the tank. Damage mitigation skills are far far more reliable in this case.

[SevValen]

Maybe its just me, I loved that skill and miss it the way it was.... I'll have to try to get used to the way it is now

[Alistaire]

Then you'll remember lolWAR to anything harder than storymode dungeons, right?

I didn't WAR pre 2.1, but coming from a SCH even Stone Vigil normal or higher you'd cringe seeing a WAR in party queueing in pre 2.1.

[NoahG]

im aware that tanks need healers but seeing as the old ib gave a big heal im sure that move helped alot in keeping him alive not just the heals from healers.

You do realize that moves like Twintania's Death Sentence, Nael's Ravensbeak can one-shot you right? why on earth would you want a bigger heal if you are already dead when you can have a 20% damage reduction that can keep you alive.

[Kerwin]

No one remembers my steel cyclone healing combo in 1.23. Solo tanking groups of level 50 mobs by yourself back in the day. I loved war pre ARR. 2.0 war was garbage and unbalanced but now it is somewhat decent but still no way was it as good as it was in 1.23.