It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[Kuwagami]

New content > Reworked Youtube mode of old fight beaten by over 90% of the player base

Please tell me and quote actual numbers on how 90% of the player base beat T9 already.

I would even accept this on T5.

Please allow me to laugh

Making a third version of a fight, just for the people who either don't want to or are too lazy to put time into the game vs new content. I wonder which should take priority.

normal mode => version we know
savage mode => unmodified version, no development time
story mode => damage downed and OH-KO eased/removed

tell me how that "third version" is taking so much time to have. Just some code lines to cut off of few numbers to change. You could also benefit not to belittle everyone not having the possibility to beat coil.

[Hali]

Please tell me and quote actual numbers on how 90% of the player base beat T9 already.

I would even accept this on T5.

Please allow me to laugh

Estimation for come 2.4, considering how T5 went after the echo buff was added to it. We'll know the real figures come FanFest and the census. My money is down on around that mark for people clearing T5.

Oh as a request too, please allow me to laugh at your lack of skill.

I do know what you meant and it was no more cheap than your idiotic, elitist post. Tell you what. Lets do a thought experiment shall we? What percentage of the player base has cleared T5? 10% Maybe 15? Hell, lets say 25%. How do you think this game would be doing if all it catered to was that demographic? Oh right, it would be F2P with minimal support or shut down. What the OP is asking for is a chance to play through it without any reward other than seeing the story. Just like the normal mode primals.

It's hardly an elitist point, (my above point is though, know the difference) I only pointed out that the devs should focus on new content instead of patching unbroken old content.
Ooooh! A thought experiment! My favorite!
Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.



You and OP may see it as wanting to go through the fights with no rewards and easier mechanics, but to everyone who is against this implementation, it's a waste of an already stretched out dev team's time. They should focus on forwarding the game instead of jumping back to cater to people who can't move in time for Twisters or Cursed Voice.

[Teryaani]

It's hardly an elitist point, (my above point is though, know the difference) I only pointed out that the devs should focus on new content instead of patching unbroken old content.

You mean like Savage Coil right? Was I not supposed to mention that? Oh right, that's content for YOU. So that's cool right?

Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

You and OP may see it as wanting to go through the fights with no rewards and easier mechanics, but to everyone who is against this implementation, it's a waste of an already stretched out dev team's time. They should focus on forwarding the game instead of jumping back to cater to people who can't move in time for Twisters or Cursed Voice.

Here's the thing. You say "waste of developers time" for anything that isn't meant for you. I don't. I'll ask the question another way: What percentage of the game population self identifies as hardcore raiders?

[saeedaisspecial]

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

This is you.
You're fine saying that X% of the player base can't complete T5, but the moment someone says something different, you stick your head in the sand and say they need to post proof.
The hypocrisy is astounding.

[Teryaani]

This is you.
You're fine saying that X% of the player base can't complete T5, but the moment someone says something different, you stick your head in the sand and say they need to post proof.
The hypocrisy is astounding.

I'll counter anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence then.

Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.

No, it's because they've all given up. Players in my old FC threw up their hands in disgust when the 2nd static couldn't handle it. The main static, the best geared players in the FC, spent months beating their heads against it.

[Hali]

You mean like Savage Coil right? Was I not supposed to mention that? Oh right, that's content for YOU. So that's cool right?

Content in general is content. I'm not asking for specific content catered towards myself, unlike yourself.
Also, I don't see what you're trying to get at here. Savage Coil was added in as something that was ALREADY DEVELOPED.
Shock, horror, gasp! It's like you completely ignored every scrap of information about the savage mode fights. Please educate yourself on them before trying again.

Also, yeah, I totally went "Hey, Yoshida, make Savage Coil for me please." Completely for me wasn't it?

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

Basic observation skills.
Also, where are your statistics to disprove me?

Here's the thing. You say "waste of developers time" for anything that isn't meant for you. I don't. I'll ask the question another way: What percentage of the game population self identifies as hardcore raiders?

Please actually read what I'm saying. I haven't asked for any content tailored for my play style. The people doing that right now are you and most people who agree with OP.

[Alukah]

Uh, why are people even arguing this?

Topic 15: Coil story
Eventually coils will be redundant content so harder for newbies to complete. Might look into ways for people to get story without doing it after coil storyline is wrapped up

You don't decide how devs spend their time, they have this planned already, and I'd say they had this planned months ago.

[Dannythm]

Uh, why are people even arguing this?



You don't decide how devs spend their time, they have this planned already, and I'd say they had this planned months ago.

Another translation of the live eltter on the topic says this:

With the Bahamut's coils completing in patch 2.4, do you have any plans for players who are only interested in seeing the storyline?

I have also been wondering what we can do. With respect to the difficulty, there will be some relaxation, but we also need to consider players who are starting new, so we haven't finalized any specifics yet. I would like it so that at some point everyone could experience the story.

[scarebearz]

I haven't asked for any content tailored for my play style. The people doing that right now are you and everyone who agrees with OP.

I agree with the OP, yet the proposed addition has no interest to me personally at all. I have T9 on farm.

[Teryaani]

Content in general is content. I'm not asking for specific content catered towards myself, unlike yourself.
Also, I don't see what you're trying to get at here. Savage Coil was added in as something that was ALREADY DEVELOPED.

and likely took about as much resource as a story mode coil would take. SE developed a separate version of an existing raid for a specific population of players. That's what the OP is asking for. When they did it for raiders, it was fine and dandy. When it's suggested for non-raiders, suddenly the sky is falling.

Basic observation skills.

See my comment above. I've seen plenty of people give up on T5, much less on T6-9.

Please actually read what I'm saying. I haven't asked for any content tailored for my play style.

No, you're asking for someone's request that isn't for you not be developed. Totally different right?