Can you please Ease Up on Atma now?

[RiverTams]

No, because then that would be something to work for with a goal. It's fine the way it is now, for people saying they spent days and weeks not even getting one I call BS. Even with the worst luck in the world you would still get them, stop being lazy... it's a grind for a reason.

Really? I spent a total of 3 weeks in camp drybone. 3-7 hours a day.

And i still didnt get it. My husband was walking by the game one time and decided to knock a fate for me. He got it.


It took me a total of 2 months to get my first and only set with constant day to day farming. Neglecting all other aspects of the game.
Sorry for being lazy i guess?

[RiverTams]

On that note i gave up on the relic grind after realizing how much ridiculous amounts of time i was putting on a weapon that wasnt even close to BiS. Why bother?

I hardly see people farming atmas anymore. And id rather not repeat that experience again.

[Mikey_R]

@MasamuneBranford:

Which is true, but at the same time, there is a right time to use each one and in each case, the reward must be in line with the rarity of said item. In the case of Atma, you have not 1, but 12 rare drops you have to collect so you can upgrade your relic weapon with a new lick of paint. In your opinion, does the reward match the difficulty in obtaining the item? Most people will say no. You will also notice that most people don't suggest they make it a guaranteed drop, it is mainly just an increase in the drop chance. It will still be gated by chance, but it won't be so low that the unlucky people will never see an Atma weapon in their possession.

[Minorinz]

Thousands of people have farmed all their atmas. It sucked for them too. Just do it like all the others did if you want the weapon.

I don't even see the point now anyways. It takes 2 weeks to get enough soldiery to get an i110 weapon.

it takes 1 day of each week to cap soldiery and get drops from ST to get the weapon, at max 2 days of each week... and its guaranteed that u will get them with barely RNG going on for rolls and its 1/7 chance for 2 sands and 3 unidentified tomes. its the same case for coil... (chances are higher after each roll in ST)


atmas take more than 7 days a week even with FATE spam and you need to be consistent with non-consistent results, moreover that's not even halfway through the journey, also, by your logic, everyone who went through crap to get their 115/110 weapon in first few weeks of SCoB had to accept the nerfs or sub-content that were added onto the next patch to help people acquire gear and catch up to boost them through the content, a lot of the people who already progressed were annoyed by this because nerf nerf nerf but they dealt with it... now i think its about time that atmas- which is just the BEGINNING of the next lvl relic quest- need to get nerf'd in terms of time consumption (RNG) and if some people r getting all upset over it, sorry but so did the ones who got upset over gear and coil nerfs/ gear buffs...

[Granyala]

And the big glaring elephant in the room is, we play games for enjoyment and fun, there is nothing fun about sitting for hours whacking low level stuff with very little return.

Yeah well, some people would like us to believe that MMOs are not about entertainment or fun, but rather work so you can pose with your rare items anonymously in front of strangers.

Yeah.. right... I stopped admiring luck based items after my first 3 months of WoW back in 2006.

You will also notice that most people don't suggest they make it a guaranteed drop, it is mainly just an increase in the drop chance. It will still be gated by chance, but it won't be so low that the unlucky people will never see an Atma weapon in their possession.

You are aware that you contradict yourself, right?
As long as you gate it purely by chance, it's mathematically possible to "not get an Atma, ever".

[Mikey_R]

You are aware that you contradict yourself, right?
As long as you gate it purely by chance, it's mathematically possible to "not get an Atma, ever".

Which is true, but at least you have a much higher chance of getting it in your lifetime :P

[riktir]

ease it up , for those ppl that say , no cuz they worked their but off with fate after fate well you wanted your atama first you went thru that hell, good job you go your reward others waited and waited some more i say give them what they want ease off on the grind and make it more fun, i know flames are gonna come out of this thread and ttry to revive an old horse. w/e just make it easier for ppl to get atamas at this point it makes no sense to slow the progression when your alredy have to grind nexus and novos make it so you have use hunts or treasures ,

keep my two cents, if you got 98 you make a whole dollar \(^^)/

[Dragoon4life]

Here's the main problem there's going to be two opinions for any subject.

And usually SE takes notice and makes changes when there are a lot of complaints.

Example : AV they got rid of the Flys at Demon Wall because players kept dying then Rage Quitting
Pharos Sirius's Symond The Unsinkable would wipe even experienced il90 players.

SE didn't change other Duties because it was made to be difficult and required some skill Don't even get me started on Ulima (Hard) or Titan (Hard)

I remember a time where if you didn't have at least a full set of Darklight you got blamed and kicked.

Players have been Aggressively Complaining about ATMA farming since the first day.
The Only change we got was a color change to the ATMAs to make easier to identify

[Granyala]

Players have been Aggressively Complaining about ATMA farming since the first day.
The Only change we got was a color change to the ATMAs to make easier to identify

Because the Atma grind is the life support for the FATE system right now.
If they were to remove the insanity, people would stop doing them and the world would truly be dead.
Their painted themselves into a corner, design wise.
Until they find another solution for that, expect Atma to stay the way it is.

If the relic is continued in the x-pack, I would expect a change to the atma stage. Before that? I seriously doubt it.

[zemogFC]

Its a pointless grind to begin with. The i110 Gerolt's masterwork weapons are so easy to get now.

Whats wrong with these players that are still complaining about atma? Why can't they do the gind so many others have done? Are they just lazy? Too busy with real life? ADHD? If its too much of a grind then get your i110 weapon in 2 weeks people!!!

Now more than ever, the atma is an optional questline.

Even if they make atmas easy to get we'll see these same people complaining about how long it takes the book fates to spawn.

"I have to wait on 27 rare fates to spawn?!!"
"Nerf the atma books, this is old content!!"
"Materia is too expensive for my novus, nerf the meld failure!!"

If they can't get through atma farming without bitching, how will they react to the rest of the grind?