Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[Tsuga]

this is a joke of a argument someone doesn't care about personal housing because we like how it was implemented?

The person that I responded to was trivializing housing in her last statement, hence my question.

people built up their own expectations over the misinterpretation i give props to yoshi p for being the bigger person and showing that he makes mistakes and that he should word things better when he makes statements so people don't get the wrong idea.

People built up expectations based on implications by Yoshida. You're right, there was little to go off of, but that is another issue with this situation. We were deliberately kept in the dark so that SE would have little accountability in the off chance that they had to implement their plan b - the current state of personal housing.

Yoshida did not admit to any mistake, he placed the burden on the players by suggesting that we misunderstood him when he explicitly stated that personal housing would be cheaper than grand company housing, not that personal housing would be cheaper relative to the current pricing of free company housing:

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."

[Musashidon]

Either you're trolling, or you're a Square employee, or possibly both. Lots of people here have politely explained to you, very clearly, that there is no way this was a misinterpretation. Just stop.

i am trolling? how? because i know players misinterpreted it and they won't accept they made a mistake and blame it all on yoshi p?

they haven't explained anything other then we are right he is wrong humans aren't perfect but i am.

[Lillia]

@Tsuga

Ok, honey I was gonna go for personal housing IF it was any different from fc housing and was a little disappointed as well considering I worked up a few mil in a short time span and no? LIED is when you say it's 2 mil over and over then go oops i meant 20 mil at crunch time. They said it'd be CHEAPER cause people were worried about the prices THEN. Look at the date when they replied it'd be lower, then tell me about lying yeah?

Btw, it's not GC housing, it's FC housing and it is LOWER than it and honestly? all you're saying is that people assumed that it'd a certain way and I personally agree, I for one did assume it'd be separate too but that's the problem with assumptions they aren't Facts and aren't always right.

By the way.... where did I say "I don't care"? I suppose that's because you assumed that it's what my comment meant... cause like I just cleared up... and said before... I rose gil for itt and honestly the only reason I stuck with just a FC house was to not be a jerk like probably some people in game and so on and take 10 houses from players with no FCs or gardening rights so I don't share my garden profits with my FC or have to share garden space with them.

[Mugiawara]

i am trolling? how? because i know players misinterpreted it and they won't accept they made a mistake and blame it all on yoshi p?

they haven't explained anything other then we are right he is wrong humans aren't perfect but i am.

We can bang our heads against the wall are year with you on this.
Copy, print and rub the post where Yoshi said it's SEPARATE from FC housing all over your face
and you'll say we're all delusional or something. It's right there!! The proof is in the pudding, or in this case...
go to the housing area and tell me if the dang FC and personal homes are SEPARATE.
I mean Jesus tap dancing Christ. Why are you doing this lmao!

[Musashidon]

It's right there!!

yet it was still misinterpreted.

[Tsuga]

@Tsuga

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

[Teryaani]

i am trolling? how? because i know players misinterpreted it and they won't accept they made a mistake and blame it all on yoshi p?

they haven't explained anything other then we are right he is wrong humans aren't perfect but i am.

You're trolling because you're repeating the same argument despite it being addressed, for no other reason but to make people angry. Yes. Trolling.

Nobody claimed anyone was perfect. Re-read the post, actually re-read it without adding your words to it. You're trying to distract and it's not going to work. I'll spell this out for you very simply.


1) Yoshi made a statement that the JP, and NA, and EU all saw as
a) Personal housing would be separate
b) Personal housing would be cheaper than FC housing

This is not a mistranslation as the japanese players saw the same thing we did on the NA servers. Drop that now. These statements were crystal clear and unambiguous.

2) The current housing plan (sharing FC resource and FC plots) had been the plan for some time prior to the patch. This is conjecture, but knowing what I do of development shops, this sort of decision is not going to be put into place the night of the patch. It would carry too high of a risk of causing bugs. This code had been smoke tested,qa'd, and UAT'd before it was rolled out.

3) Yoshi had time to amend player's expectations and didn't.

There was no misinterpretation. There was no mistranslation. There was no miscommunication because there was no communication at all.

[Lillia]

@Teryaani

Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

They said that when FC housing first came out, prices lowered since then. People were worried at the time that we'd need about 10 mil for personal housing since that was roughly if not more what a SMALL house cost which at the time was only one floor. Since then the prices have decreased and became much more affordable along with small housing also gaining a basement from the fears of some not having an airship and complains that it was too small because it was the size of what your personal rooming was currently.

Edit: and I'd think that it was a lesson learned. but never know.

[Riepah]

yet it was still misinterpreted.

No, it wasn't. People took what was said exactly how it was said. There was no misinterpretation; if anything, Yoshi worded it wrong. What he said directly contradicts what happened, misinterpretation has nothing to do with it.

"It will be green! Look forward to it!"
"Hey... I waited, and it's... it's red."
"You misinterpreted what I said. I meant it's not yellow."

[Mugiawara]

yet it was still misinterpreted.

he in fact said it was misinterpreted. so yes.

He was just using this as a shield then. That's no ones fault but his own.
He either worded it horrible HORRIBLY wrong, or lied.
Yoshi never ever posted anything new after saying that.