So...what videos should I be watching?

[Ruri]

I always watch the one from some british dude, Duno his name but his seem very detailed and simple to follow.

[ruskie]

Heh I always go in blind for the first time - atleast if it's with people I know. Frankly have never had a video help me much(no matter from whom). But I am willing to watch a video if doing something for the first time with an unknown group. So far it helped me 0/N times.

But I must say I enjoy Mizzteqs(MTQcapture) the most. I'll usually watch multilpe guides if I am trying to figure out the fight fully because so far noone ever explained all the mechanics that happen and why you should deal with them in a certain way.

[blowfin]

Yeah I like the MTQCapture ones too, watched the Turn 7 video the other night and felt very comfortable MT'ing it for the first time with zero experience.

[Delsus]

I would personally prefer to go in blind, and learn on the go (with some explanation from experienced players), but that requires like minded and patent players, which are few and far between in the PF, and DF these days.

[Pantz]

I personally watch this video before raiding. It contains very valuable advice.

http://youtu.be/xB5ceAruYrI

[Souljacker]

I find it highly amusing that this generation is so obsessed with videos. Back in my day, we read text guides and did just fine. There's no substitute for experience though, no matter what that group wanted to blame on you. I've found that often, the ones who shout the loudest, are the ones most in need of guidance.

And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.

[Yukariko]

watching a video can only get you so far, experiencing the mechanics of a fight and learning them first hand is what counts.
When learning, a healthy dose of situational awareness and adaptability will help too.

There are ins and outs that a video just wont show you, i watch videos of coil and ex primals so i can get a basic understanding before heading in, but those players that say "watch a video" and then expect you to be perfect first time, well those players are to be avoided.

[Curia_Regis]

I find it highly amusing that this generation is so obsessed with videos. Back in my day, we read text guides and did just fine. There's no substitute for experience though, no matter what that group wanted to blame on you. I've found that often, the ones who shout the loudest, are the ones most in need of guidance.

And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.

Some people learn better from seeing an example then acting out the example they saw (IE a video).

Other people learn better by reading something and then executing what they read when they recognize it (IE reading a guide).

Different people have different learning styles, who knew?

[Sapphic]

watching a video can only get you so far, experiencing the mechanics of a fight and learning them first hand is what counts.
When learning, a healthy dose of situational awareness and adaptability will help too.

There are ins and outs that a video just wont show you, i watch videos of coil and ex primals so i can get a basic understanding before heading in, but those players that say "watch a video" and then expect you to be perfect first time, well those players are to be avoided.

Also strats shown in a video may not click with your party, so you end up developing your own, as we did with double def towers on t8 and DBs on t9.

[Souljacker]

Different people have different learning styles, who knew?

And some people like to go in and learn the fight without EITHER of us jumping down their throats. Who knew?

It's still highly amusing, nonetheless. The obsession with "Go watch a youtube video" has ushered in an era of elitism that I've never seen before. This is one of the worst playerbases in the history of the FF mmo. You'd never hear someone rage in a group because someone didn't spend an hour scouring youtube to learn a fight beforehand in the old days. There may have been some scuffles here and there, but every single group I've been in here has had the same attitude, and at least once a week there's a post on the forums from a player who is just trying to play and enjoy the game.