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    I find it highly amusing that this generation is so obsessed with videos. Back in my day, we read text guides and did just fine. There's no substitute for experience though, no matter what that group wanted to blame on you. I've found that often, the ones who shout the loudest, are the ones most in need of guidance.

    And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.
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    watching a video can only get you so far, experiencing the mechanics of a fight and learning them first hand is what counts.
    When learning, a healthy dose of situational awareness and adaptability will help too.

    There are ins and outs that a video just wont show you, i watch videos of coil and ex primals so i can get a basic understanding before heading in, but those players that say "watch a video" and then expect you to be perfect first time, well those players are to be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukariko View Post
    watching a video can only get you so far, experiencing the mechanics of a fight and learning them first hand is what counts.
    When learning, a healthy dose of situational awareness and adaptability will help too.

    There are ins and outs that a video just wont show you, i watch videos of coil and ex primals so i can get a basic understanding before heading in, but those players that say "watch a video" and then expect you to be perfect first time, well those players are to be avoided.
    Also strats shown in a video may not click with your party, so you end up developing your own, as we did with double def towers on t8 and DBs on t9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I find it highly amusing that this generation is so obsessed with videos. Back in my day, we read text guides and did just fine. There's no substitute for experience though, no matter what that group wanted to blame on you. I've found that often, the ones who shout the loudest, are the ones most in need of guidance.

    And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.
    Some people learn better from seeing an example then acting out the example they saw (IE a video).

    Other people learn better by reading something and then executing what they read when they recognize it (IE reading a guide).

    Different people have different learning styles, who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curia_Regis View Post
    Different people have different learning styles, who knew?
    And some people like to go in and learn the fight without EITHER of us jumping down their throats. Who knew?

    It's still highly amusing, nonetheless. The obsession with "Go watch a youtube video" has ushered in an era of elitism that I've never seen before. This is one of the worst playerbases in the history of the FF mmo. You'd never hear someone rage in a group because someone didn't spend an hour scouring youtube to learn a fight beforehand in the old days. There may have been some scuffles here and there, but every single group I've been in here has had the same attitude, and at least once a week there's a post on the forums from a player who is just trying to play and enjoy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.
    That and Titan EX. Titan EX is turning into a nightmare for me in DF. I should prob transition into PF now that I know enough of the fight.

    Only thing videos are useful for is to iron out the kinks and to have some foreknowledge of the fight. Know where to stand, what are the 1 shot mechanics, what are the debuffs that you need watch out for, etc. I prefer too also go in blind for a few runs but lately I been watching videos cause I do alot of my runs in DF and yeah, if you start going in blind your gonna get kicked real quick.

    As far as who to watch, watch all of them. mrhappy, mtq, and other random on youtube give you the full flavor of the fight.
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    Last edited by DenariusJay; 09-23-2014 at 05:14 AM.