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  1. #11
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Foe Requiem only affects magic attacks. As such it only affects attacks by Arcanists, Thaumaturges, Conjurers, and their advanced classes. This can be shown to be true by the exact text of Foe Requiem as it has been modified recently to reflect what it actually does:



    Enemy Magic Resistance specifically refers to resistance to magic attacks. Dragonfire Dive and Flame Arrow are not Magic Attacks, as such they remain unaffected by this ability.
    Correct answer here.
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    Kletian Drowa
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    Because Dragonfire Dive is a magic attack, it's not boosted by Power Surge.
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    Dyne Fellpool
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    Its pretty lame, because Dragonfire Dive is not affected by Power Surge OR Foe Requiem.

    If it is a magic attack, it should be affected by Foe Requiem.
    If it is not a magic attack, it should be affected by Power Surge.

    Since neither of these are true, its some kind of third-type ability? I think SE is cheating on this one.
    But, it is what it is.


    Edit: bah, Idk what I was thinking. Mixed up the "non-magical" clause from Life Surge with Power Surge. sorry
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    Last edited by Dyne_Fellpool; 09-21-2014 at 02:17 AM.

  4. #14
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool View Post
    Its pretty lame, because Dragonfire Dive is not affected by Power Surge OR Foe Requiem.

    If it is a magic attack, it should be affected by Foe Requiem.
    If it is not a magic attack, it should be affected by Power Surge.

    Since neither of these are true, its some kind of third-type ability? I think SE is cheating on this one.
    But, it is what it is.
    My guess is that Power Surge only affects single target jump so since Dragonfire Dive is an AoE, it is unaffected by it.
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kletian View Post
    Because Dragonfire Dive is a magic attack, it's not boosted by Power Surge.
    DFD is not boosted by PS because PS specifically buffs Jump and SSD... Thats like saying Divine Seal also boosts your Stone II damage @_@
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  6. #16
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Foe Requiem only affects magic attacks. As such it only affects attacks by Arcanists, Thaumaturges, Conjurers, and their advanced classes. This can be shown to be true by the exact text of Foe Requiem as it has been modified recently to reflect what it actually does:



    Enemy Magic Resistance specifically refers to resistance to magic attacks. Dragonfire Dive and Flame Arrow are not Magic Attacks, as such they remain unaffected by this ability.
    The description used to say elemental resistance.
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  7. #17
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    I was thinking of the "non-magical" clause on Life Surge. My mistake
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    Last edited by Dyne_Fellpool; 09-21-2014 at 02:15 AM.

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    Rygart Sawamura
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    Bard has bunch of gas oil bag n use lighter at arrow.
    Dragoon bath themself with gas oil n use lighter at self.

    See no magic!
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  9. #19
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    The description used to say elemental resistance.
    yes but it has been changed because what it used to say isn't what it actually did. This sort of change is referred to as an Errata. An Errata in MMORPG lingo is a correction in a tooltip so that the tooltip more accurately reflects what the mechanic of the ability is actually doing when it is activated. In games such as Magic the Gathering an Errata is when a older printing of a card says one thing, and a newer printing of a card says something different. This generally takes the form of keywords being added to clarify rules, or other similar things being done to make things easier for Wizards of the Coast's publishing house. That way you don't end up with new cards with rules text similar to the Ice Age Necropotence, which has a crap ton more text than the Vintage Masters version of the same card.

    Regarding why Dragonfire Dive doesn't work with Life Surge: I have no idea. It could be that Life Surge specifically works only with Non-Elemental attacks. Dragoon only has the one Elemental Attack, so that is in fact a possibility. In which case Life Surge is in need of an Errata change itself to reflect that fact. But if that is not the case then I have no idea why it wouldn't work with Dragonfire Dive.
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    Last edited by Tharian; 09-21-2014 at 07:01 PM.

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    Project Ziek
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    I don't even know why elemental materia is still even in the game.
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