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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Why is dragonfire dive described as a fire based attack?

    So I just got my DRG to 50 and noticed that dragonfire dive is described as a "jumping fire-based attack". But upon testing with my BRD friend we found that it is not effected by foe requiem. So why is it called a fire based attack? There are no elemental weaknesses in this game and if it's not trying to point out that it's magic damage then why not just list it as a jumping attack? Is there a reason for the seemingly pointless addition of "fire-based" in the description?
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    It might just be flavour text. It is kinda fiery and flashy
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    Bard's Flaming Arrow is the same way. Unaffected by Requiem.
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    Palamula Anamaleth
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    prolly flavour text at this stage, in 1.0 there werre elemental weaknesses and it actually meant something then...

    If it's not flavour text then i dunno, maybe it just slipped through the cracks in the redoing of the ability descriptions
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    Lollie Ondoreil
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    This is the exact text it was in 1.0 to describe the ability when elements acutly mattered (healing ifrit was fun).
    Side note foes does not increase elemental damage as its tool tip suggests, it increases all magical dmg. This has been confirmed by the devs numerous times and honestly i do not know why they have not fixed the description text yet.
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    Foe Requiem only affects magic attacks. As such it only affects attacks by Arcanists, Thaumaturges, Conjurers, and their advanced classes. This can be shown to be true by the exact text of Foe Requiem as it has been modified recently to reflect what it actually does:

    Quote Originally Posted by Foe Requiem
    Reduces all enemy magic resistance by 10%. MP is drained while singing. Effect is lost if targets move out of hearing distancce, and ends upon reuse. Cannot be used with other songs.
    Enemy Magic Resistance specifically refers to resistance to magic attacks. Dragonfire Dive and Flame Arrow are not Magic Attacks, as such they remain unaffected by this ability.
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    Last edited by Tharian; 09-19-2014 at 03:37 AM.

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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Foe Requiem only affects magic attacks. As such it only affects attacks by Arcanists, Thaumaturges, Conjurers, and their advanced classes. This can be shown to be true by the exact text of Foe Requiem as it has been modified recently to reflect what it actually does:



    Enemy Magic Resistance specifically refers to resistance to magic attacks. Dragonfire Dive and Flame Arrow are not Magic Attacks, as such they remain unaffected by this ability.
    Correct answer here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Foe Requiem only affects magic attacks. As such it only affects attacks by Arcanists, Thaumaturges, Conjurers, and their advanced classes. This can be shown to be true by the exact text of Foe Requiem as it has been modified recently to reflect what it actually does:



    Enemy Magic Resistance specifically refers to resistance to magic attacks. Dragonfire Dive and Flame Arrow are not Magic Attacks, as such they remain unaffected by this ability.
    The description used to say elemental resistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    The description used to say elemental resistance.
    yes but it has been changed because what it used to say isn't what it actually did. This sort of change is referred to as an Errata. An Errata in MMORPG lingo is a correction in a tooltip so that the tooltip more accurately reflects what the mechanic of the ability is actually doing when it is activated. In games such as Magic the Gathering an Errata is when a older printing of a card says one thing, and a newer printing of a card says something different. This generally takes the form of keywords being added to clarify rules, or other similar things being done to make things easier for Wizards of the Coast's publishing house. That way you don't end up with new cards with rules text similar to the Ice Age Necropotence, which has a crap ton more text than the Vintage Masters version of the same card.

    Regarding why Dragonfire Dive doesn't work with Life Surge: I have no idea. It could be that Life Surge specifically works only with Non-Elemental attacks. Dragoon only has the one Elemental Attack, so that is in fact a possibility. In which case Life Surge is in need of an Errata change itself to reflect that fact. But if that is not the case then I have no idea why it wouldn't work with Dragonfire Dive.
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    Last edited by Tharian; 09-21-2014 at 07:01 PM.

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    Kerwin Nindon
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    The dragoon burns up in the atmosphere coming down so fast that he bursts into flames on contact with his enemy. Yet the enemy suffers no elemental damage. lol?
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    Last edited by Kerwin; 09-19-2014 at 03:51 AM.

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