No FC room, no personal house... big deal??

[Aylis]

You may not understand why people are upset about it because you don't see designing your own personal house fun but people who find designing their own personal fun feel cheated that part of the game they will find fun is locked from them.

To put it in another depliction. It would be akin to telling someone who really enjoys raiding "Were sorry but we can only support 100 instances of Coils, 50 instances of EX Primals and 25 instances of ST per week, server wide. First come first serve. If this was the case wouldn't raiders feel cheated too?

[TouchandFeel]

As many are trying to say, customization/vanity-stuff is an integral and large part of the game; hence why things like the glamour system, chocobo barding, emotes, minions, even the ability to be different races are all part of the game.
Do they boost your stats, increase your ilvl, or affect other other major systems of the game? No, not really, but they are still a big part of the game and people's enjoyment of it because they add flavor and personalization to the experience.
Making a big mistake, as many people consider it to be, on an integral part of the game is what people are mad about.
To some this aspect of the game is just as important as end-game raiding or crafting, not to me but I am not everyone nor do I speak for everyone but I can see what the situation is and rationalize and empathize.

[Mugiawara]

Garden at the FC house just fine.

Depends.
Because some azzholes take your stuff without asking and it's free roam there.
It may work if you're on a smaller FC and all or just a real close-knit everyone knows who are...FC...
But I don't wanna risk 1 jerk off taking me crap. -.-

[NyarukoW]

Depends. ....
But I don't wanna risk 1 jerk off taking me crap. -.-

It is a FC where you screen people. The default rank does not get access to take stuff from the entire FC chest. People learn and get to know each other. It is a great way to earn your bad reputation to take stuff and sell it and never contribute. Guess what those people can be asked to leave the FC. The more valueable stuff will require a higher rank in the FC. And in our FC we have people in charge of the garden and share the stuff that grows out of there.

People will supply seeds and soil from gathering and people will get the stuff that comes out of that to feed their chocobo. Lots of people in our FC got their chocobo colored just fine, and we are not talking about some 3 person tiny FC.

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On a side note, what would forbid a FC leader (s) once they get a house paid by the members to throw everyone out and just keep it for themselves ?

A FC leader pulling a stunt like this will have their reputation ruined instantly. Everyone will know what they did and they may even get reported to the GM. Also people will select their FC leader very carefully, not just any unknown player in the FC gets to be a FC leader.

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... "Were sorry but we can only support 100 instances of Coils, 50 instances of EX Primals and 25 instances of ST per week, server wide. First come first serve. If this was the case wouldn't raiders feel cheated too?

This is such a bad analogy. Personal house is a trophy vanity item. You can share a FC house and get all you need from there, including your own personal room to decorate as you like. BTW SCOB has lock out so that is not a free for all and unlimited either, and it is central to the gameplay and in no ways comparable to vanity items.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

We get it, personal housing or housing at all might not be an important in-game feature for some of you. For others it is a long awaited addition. I don't care why housing is important to someone. Who cares if the entire reason they wanted it was to full a house full of hot tubs and stuffed moogles. It doesn't matter why but they have the right to be disappointed and to vent their frustration at the current system.

[Niwashi]

It is a FC where you screen people. The default rank does not get access to take stuff from the entire FC chest. People learn and get to know each other. It is a great way to earn your bad reputation to take stuff and sell it and never contribute. Guess what those people can be asked to leave the FC. The more valueable stuff will require a higher rank in the FC. And in our FC we have people in charge of the garden and share the stuff that grows out of there.

Too bad that doesn't work if it's the FC leader who's stealing stuff. In my previous FC, even after I was put in charge of the garden, I never got to see the results of anything I grew there, as the FC leader always grabbed everything for himself. It's a bit hard to manage a garden without even getting to see what the yield is, let alone getting a chance to distribute any of it. (Too bad. It was a great FC with its original leader. It was only after she left the game that her successor drove it into the toilet.)

[Apricoth]

OP - you are entitled to your opinion but those of us that were looking forward to certain content have a right to be annoyed. We appreciate if you do not try to tell us how to feel or how to play the game - we will extend the same courtesy to you.

[Aylis]

This is such a bad analogy. Personal house is a trophy vanity item. You can share a FC house and get all you need from there, including your own personal room to decorate as you like. BTW SCOB has lock out so that is not a free for all and unlimited either, and it is central to the gameplay and in no ways comparable to vanity items.

But but but raiding is meant for the super hardcore and should only be available for the super hard core to complete!! Not everyone is meant to raid and should be kept for only those select few!!

lol just.....stop please. Please tell me though how SCOB (optional content. Not everyone likes to raid or wants to raid) is central to game play and ever so needs to be open to everyone but basic function isn't and is supposed to be this /trophy/ item you seem to enjoy throwing around like its a status symbol. News flash hun, it isn't. Exactly like raiding should be open to everyone, so is basic function. Maybe its best you do some research into what is "vanity" and what is "basic function" but I'll explain it slowly.

Housing at its most smallest level...is basic function. Letting the player have total access to the basic game play mechanics at the start for next to nothing....because its basic....just as basic is to talking to the NPC outside BCOB and BOOM! suddenly RAIDER basic! See gardening for example.


Now that we covered the basics that should be open to all players. I.E for players to decide for themselves, no no no no the FC argument doesn't work here either because players shouldn't feel forced to join FC's and the personal room doesn't alleviate the issue because YUP! Back to basic functions and garden space is limited! As you no doubt have experienced being in a FC with 69 active members in a small house with only 1 tiny 8 plot garden to go around. ANYWAY!! lets move onto the vanity part!!

The vanity part in housing comes purely from the decorations. Nothing more..yep...that's the vanity part. Not the owning! Coz lets be honest here, were living in a day where these /status symbols/ only matter to one person. The person owning it. I really hate to burst any bubbles but honestly? No random person cares. Just like the person upon getting their relic weapon completion who's first mission with it is to stand AFK for hours in a crowded location while believing everyone else runs by them looking in jealous awe of this God among the unwashed masses!! Guess what they don't lol. They run by and without even so much as a glance...No stranger cares. My three person FC has a very nice decorated house, no group beats a path to our door to see it...No one cares but us. That's how vanity works. Not basic functions.

[duvvvv]

my problem with the topic is why OP's even questioning the importance of housing in this game? presumably s/he is not a huge MMORPG player, s/he has never had a house in other MMORPGs, never RP'ed, has little to no desire for customization--because if this is the case then OP, your basic understanding of MMORPGs is faulty, you better get off that high horse, and educate yourself.

there's no need to elaborate why I'm also disappointed with personal housing, as many have already laid out valid points, though I'm still optimistic that this fiasco is only temporary.

[scarebearz]

What is all this fuss about personal house prices? If it is too high, don't buy it and wait for the price to come down.

Why are people complaining about a total optional vanity acquisition?

What is all this fuss about people who complain about personal housing? If you don't like it don't read it and wait for new threads.

Why are you complaining about peoples views of a total optional vanity acquisition?

;D