Please put a range limitation on shield lob / tomahawk

[Kerwin]

It's a single target enmity skill that doesn't require a combo to build enmity. The first melee skill in the enmity combo for both WAR and PLD do not generate enmity. So if a lob or a tomahawk will do the job of getting aggro back where aoe is not a possibility (flash out of MP or overpower out of TP) then using it in CQB is not a problem.

[SeraviEdalborez]

It's a single target enmity skill that doesn't require a combo to build enmity. The first melee skill in the enmity combo for both WAR and PLD do not generate enmity. So if a lob or a tomahawk will do the job of getting aggro back where aoe is not a possibility (flash out of MP or overpower out of TP) then using it in CQB is not a problem.

A raw Halone/Butcher is literally better enmity generation than Lob/Hawk. It's stupid to use outside of max range.

On that note, Overpower also generates better enmity than 'hawk and is almost the same range. Virtually no reason to even have 'hawk on your hotbar.

[Duuude007]

I don't see the advantage of disabling them in melee range. Just don't hit the button if you don't want to use them.

I see your point, but on the other hand many people like to have lob and mark target shared on the same button in a macro. Unless you time it just right, you can waste a gcd when changing the mark around.

[Bixby]

I see your point, but on the other hand many people like to have lob and mark target shared on the same button in a macro. Unless you time it just right, you can waste a gcd when changing the mark around.

You'd face the same problem trying to mark a mob that's outside melee range without lobbing/hawking it. Or trying to lob/hawk without marking. Macros (in FFXIV) trade convenience for adaptability/performance. Smush two things together and you get to deal with the fact that they're smushed together.

[Taruinatho]

I usually only pull with provoke and slam my flash macro on WAR. That plus riding Featherfoot on cooldown has gotten me 500 comms. Tomahawk is already pointless enough, just remove it.

[Ignnis]

I use shield lob to drain my TP, so I can be cool and use my "BRD TP SONG NOW" Macro.

Then the brd armies I keep getting in ST will all use it and you can spam it to your hearts content

[Kerwin]

A raw Halone/Butcher is literally better enmity generation than Lob/Hawk. It's stupid to use outside of max range.

On that note, Overpower also generates better enmity than 'hawk and is almost the same range. Virtually no reason to even have 'hawk on your hotbar.

Requires combo. And overpowered is less range and costs more tp. This is my last post to this troll thread

[Madotsuki]

It's a video game. If you really want to play semantics here, we should have our shield unequipped after the first Lob. Surely that makes more sense, right?

[Warrlordd]

It's a video game. If you really want to play semantics here, we should have our shield unequipped after the first Lob. Surely that makes more sense, right?

And us warriors without an axe. On that note, lets make arrows a consumable so that people can craft them and abuse the markets.

[FrozenSoupZOMG]

Player choice, if you don't like Tomahawk or "think" it shouldn't be used outside melee range don't use it. Simple enough just like fracture.