2.4 - Dreams of Ice

[Gilraen]

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

"That's crazy, you're crazy!"

It's not if you consider that all those blessed by the Echo are 'little primals' (seriously, player adventurer's seem to defy death but NPC adventurers not so much. Poor Avere), that the Ascians have shown they know how to grant the Echo (though I think Iceheart is naturally possessed of the Echo) and that all it takes to manifest a primal is alot of aetheric energy.

[EdwinLi]

Well time to get to work and prepare for Shiva

[Limecat]

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

"That's crazy, you're crazy!"

Heh, more like blatantly obvious.

http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/1...s-and-more.htm

That's the emptiest article I have ever read, the title suggest it's about 2.4 but only the first paragraph talks about 2.4.

Holy clickbait, Batman, you're not kidding. It's literally nothing. I'll add that site to my filters to avoid ever seeing it again.

[Alukah]

Heh, more like blatantly obvious.

Not really, if you use that sahagin priest who summoned Levi as a reference, Iceheart could be just a fanatic trying to summon or trying to become Shiva, rather than her already being Shiva in a human form.

[Grimmel]

Not really, if you use that sahagin priest who summoned Levi as a reference, Iceheart could be just a fanatic trying to summon or trying to become Shiva, rather than her already being Shiva in a human form.

Except the Sahagin priest didn't become Leviathan; he was absorbed by him. Unwillingly I might add.

[Alukah]

Except the Sahagin priest didn't become Leviathan; he was absorbed by him.

I know I know, I'm just saying that it doesn't close the possibility of possession, we still don't know how powerful (lore wise) is Shiva, she could take over Iceheart while she tries to summon her. I'm just saying all theories out there are equally possible IMO.

This makes me think the Ascians are controlling the high priest / pope of Ishgard to threaten the heretics, driving them (and Iceheart) to seek for "extra" help (which the Ascians will provide).

[Bixby]

Holy clickbait, Batman, you're not kidding. It's literally nothing. I'll add that site to my filters to avoid ever seeing it again.

Srsly. The title in the URL got me all excited with "graphical updates," and there's absolutely nothing about that in the article.

[DoubleT]

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

nah, really? you dont say...

[Nalien]

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

I find it more likely that Iceheart will be a relative of someone, and that she survived whatever happened to Falcon's Nest/Coerthas Western Highlands, only to become a slave to Shiva.

Iceheart literally being Shiva is just far too obvious, and has no real impact as a result... Then again, these are the same people who gave us Neros cunning disguise and reveal in the Crystal Tower cutscenes...

Thinking about it... Why does Shiva even need to be summoned? Western Highlands got completely Diamond Dust'd by her after all... Who exactly put her down after she did that? Who even summoned her to do that to Coerthas in the first place?