2.4 - Dreams of Ice

[Kimikryo]

For thsoe who speak a bit better japanese than me....


The latter part is only in the 8th derevation used for dreaming, otherwise used for illusion and the first kanji is a lyrical writing of something freezes .. Wouldnt it be more saying That Illusion of Freezing?

Just curious because some Japanese original titles mean quite something else than the english translation

[TheMunimai]

True but couldn't dreams be considered illusions?

I think Dreams of Ice is more catchy than the Illusion of Freezing.

In my opinion anyway.

[BreathlessTao]

For thsoe who speak a bit better japanese than me....


The latter part is only in the 8th derevation used for dreaming, otherwise used for illusion and the first kanji is a lyrical writing of something freezes .. Wouldnt it be more saying That Illusion of Freezing?

Just curious because some Japanese original titles mean quite something else than the english translation

Original meanings are lost, more often than not, when things get translated...

[Kimikryo]

Yeah of course it is more catchy

but I wonder more if there is some other meaning behind it. the FFXI expannsion, when translating the Japanese names literally made a lot of more sense Wings of the goddes actully was something like The warriors legends if I remember right.

[TheMunimai]

Ahh I see - Well, tomorrow is the live letter! im sure itll get clarified then

[melflomil]

SHiva better sounds sexy. I say Shiva should have a slight Hindu accent, nothing hardcore that we will have to replay the cut scenes to understand what she is saying. Ramuh sounded the way i expected because of that glorious beard and on top of that he pronounced the other primals name correctly.

Tie-Tin
Rah-Moo
Ee-freet
Gah-rou-dah

[Nalien]

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

I find it more likely that Iceheart will be a relative of someone, and that she survived whatever happened to Falcon's Nest/Coerthas Western Highlands, only to become a slave to Shiva.

Iceheart literally being Shiva is just far too obvious, and has no real impact as a result... Then again, these are the same people who gave us Neros cunning disguise and reveal in the Crystal Tower cutscenes...

Thinking about it... Why does Shiva even need to be summoned? Western Highlands got completely Diamond Dust'd by her after all... Who exactly put her down after she did that? Who even summoned her to do that to Coerthas in the first place?

[TheMunimai]

The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)

[Nalien]

The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)

I see Shivas boobs behind Iceheart. Looks like Shiva is half encased in ice or a crystal, in fact... Perhaps that's why she's been dormant, also adds meaning to "Dreams of Ice", since it would mean Shiva is "asleep", and Iceheart is attempting to wake her; she looks like she's calling/praying to Shiva in that artwork at least.

EDIT: Threw this together to point out the boobs;

[Muzetta]

The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)

Yet Yoshi-P said a few months(?) ago that all our guesses (and at the time nearly everyone has thought of Iceheart being Shiva in human form) about Lady Iceheart were wrong. So unless they decided to change that, she's most certainly not Shiva herself.