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    Why does so many people believe that should be entitled to a in game house all to themselves? Especially when there are FC houses that many share and should share? This is the root of the availability problem, people that do NOT want to share. BTW does everyone believe they are entitled to a blue bird or tonberry minion too? Or how about novus/nexus weapon? Why is the attitude towards the personal housing so different?

    In any case from looking at the lots unsold, it would seem that most people do not even have the 3.3 mil needed for a small lot. So what is the complaint about everything being sold out. BTW 3.3 mil now is sure a lot more affordable now given the more ways to make gil than the 4 mil so for house when housing first became available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Why does so many people believe that should be entitled to a in game house all to themselves? Especially when there are FC houses that many share and should share? This is the root of the availability problem, people that do NOT want to share. BTW does everyone believe they are entitled to a blue bird or tonberry minion too? Or how about novus/nexus weapon? Why is the attitude towards the personal housing so different?
    Because it's not the same thing at all?
    you speak about 3 different limitations:
    minions => RNG limitation => try again
    novus/nexu => work limitation => farm more
    housing => not enough for everybody => you can't do anything for that

    if people believe they entitled to housing access is cause they are. Everybody pay the same price to play this game, BUT only a percentage has acces to the full contant (housing/gardening/chocobo breeding) not cause they not work enough/have enough luck but because there is no place for equality of chance between players. (and before you ask, i have a room in my FC house, can use the garden and breed my chocobo, i wasn't interesting in buying a personnal house cause my room was enough for me but i think this really a mistake from the devs and an insult to every players who waited the housing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardayel View Post
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    if people believe they entitled to housing access is cause they are. Everybody pay the same price to play this game, BUT only a percentage has acces to the full contant (housing/gardening/chocobo breeding) ....
    People believe they are entitled to all the minions too. Everyone pays the same price so everyone should get full access to the blue bird?

    Being able to have all the gil lined up is RNG. People sold their blue birds to 2 mil or whatever. Most players are lucky to be at 500K after leveling 2 alt classes plus their main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    People believe they are entitled to all the minions too. Everyone pays the same price so everyone should get full access to the blue bird?

    Being able to have all the gil lined up is RNG. People sold their blue birds to 2 mil or whatever. Most players are lucky to be at 500K after leveling 2 alt classes plus their main.
    Last I checked bluebird is a nrg based drop isn't guaranteed, stop trying to justify your false info with inaccuracies
    Housing isn't rng it's casual content a lot look forward too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Last I checked bluebird is a nrg based drop isn't guaranteed, stop trying to justify your false info with inaccuracies
    Housing isn't rng it's casual content a lot look forward too
    Getting enough gil ahead of the curve ahead of 99% of the people requires some serious RNG. Whether it is lucky dungeon drops or doing tons of HQ crafting and getting lucky on that RNG on a consistent basis and/or mining and gathering getting lucky on the RNG to drop you the HQ mats to use or sell or get lucky on the RNG treasure maps. Unless you can play 24/7 nonstop since release date and saved every gil (like ride your chocobo instead of teleporting), you will not be able to save the millions of gil needed for the lots. The people that have the funds saved up, have gotten lucky off the RNG consistently over time and made smart decisions with that gil.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 09-18-2014 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Getting enough gil ahead of the curve ahead of 99% of the people requires some serious RNG. Whether it is lucky dungeon drops or doing tons of HQ crafting and getting lucky on that RNG on a consistent basis and/or mining and gathering getting lucky on the RNG to drop you the HQ mats to use or sell or get lucky on the RNG treasure maps. Unless you can play 24/7 nonstop since release date and saved every gil (like ride your chocobo instead of teleporting), you will not be able to save the millions of gil needed for the lots. The people that have the funds saved up, have gotten lucky off the RNG consistently over time and made smart decisions with that gil.
    This is the dumbest thing i have ever read, if people want to make gil all they need to do is gather and craft no rng to it.(You can nq everything and still make profit)
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    This is the dumbest thing i have ever read, if people want to make gil all they need to do is gather and craft no rng to it.(You can nq everything and still make profit)
    Don't feed the troll quince! This person nyraku has been posting in all the housing threads trying to stir it up. And your right making Gil isn't nrg based. No idea why they would think that lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    This is the dumbest thing i have ever read, if people want to make gil all they need to do is gather and craft no rng to it.(You can nq everything and still make profit)
    NQ stuff loses you funds. The time you spend on them won't get you ahead of 99% of the people, nor will it get you the millions needed to get a house. Go ahead NQ all your crafts and see how long it takes to generate funds. A shard is 100 gil give or take. Just because you think you get for free from mining, doesn't properly account for is relative value. If you sell NQ items you be hard pressed to make cover even the shards you put in the time you put in, you might as well just farm shards and sell them straight up. At 100 gil per shard you are looking at 10,000 shards to get a mil. But it will probably take you 5 hours to get 1000 shards, and so maybe 40 to 50 hours of game time of nonstop gathering to get to 10,000 shards.

    So that will not earn you the millions you need anytime soon. Of course if you flood the market with shards the shard prices will drop too. Not to mention you will be bored out of your mind collecting those shards. And that is ignoring the fact that the right HQ items can often sell for 10x the NQ items which blindly ignoring the efficency of the matter. Being able to get the funds to get a house is RNG, just indirect RNG, and you have more options to make your own luck along the way. The problem is people think they should be entitled to in game personal housing, and ignore the fact the FC room is their guaranteed personal housing for the entitled.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 09-19-2014 at 01:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Getting enough gil ahead of the curve ahead of 99% of the people requires some serious RNG. Whether it is lucky dungeon drops or doing tons of HQ crafting and getting lucky on that RNG on a consistent basis and/or mining and gathering getting lucky on the RNG to drop you the HQ mats to use or sell or get lucky on the RNG treasure maps. Unless you can play 24/7 nonstop since release date and saved every gil (like ride your chocobo instead of teleporting), you will not be able to save the millions of gil needed for the lots. The people that have the funds saved up, have gotten lucky off the RNG consistently over time and made smart decisions with that gil.
    LOL, none of this is true even a little bit. So much nonsense in this thread.
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    and they CAN have the blue brid, they can have luck with RMT or buy it... it's not the case with the house as they are really limited
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