What happened to 800k personal housing?

[Alukah]

I must be missing the point somewhere as I keep seeing people saying that the personal house is the same cost as a FC house? On my server anyway when they introduced FC housing a small FC house was 25 million, and the small personal house introduced in today's patch is 5million gil. Don't get me wrong, I'm not very impressed at the high prices, which do not match I think 95% of the player base's expectations. But then whenever have we got anything good that we expected? lol

I don't know if you took a break from the game since then or just haven't been in touch with the updates, but they stated the reason why lands prices were so high back then, ever since then whenever they add a new plot or an old plot frees up it will use the new price, 5m.

5m = price for FC, not for individual, and that's just small, only a few individuals will be able to afford a medium or large.

[Duelle]

You should be upset you were lied to. I don't care who you are. This is a blatant lie and regardless of whether or not you want a personal house or whatever, you - the customer- was lied to.

Unlike other instances, this is one of the few situations where people should step back and look at the logistics of things; stomping your feet that you were "lied" to is nowhere near as important as asking the most important questions, "what happened?" and "why?".

As said before in this thread, this wasn't done to spite the playerbase or alienate them. I can come up with a couple of roadblocks the devs encountered and despite the roadblocks they released this because I guess they felt something is better than nothing at all.The housing structure probably was the biggest roadblock, because as I mentioned, there's no limit and currently no way for them to split pricing between what a FC pays vs what an individual player pays. An individual player buying a large plot at a fraction of the price a FC would have to pay would be stupidly unfair to the FC, for example.

Server load is probably an issue as well, since you have actual wards with real estate (and thus limited physical world space) instead of the door that takes you to your moghouse in FFXI, where a thousand players could enter and have their own room without taking up any world space.

Yes, chances are they could be trying to remove gil from the game using this.

At this point I wouldn't call it a "lie" so much as "Yoshida said something, found it was unfeasible or did something to some aspect of game balance and had to alter the deal". The only thing I can even hope to chide Yoshida for is the fact that he did not come out and explain the situation with the prices. I doubt the shitstorm would have gotten this big if he went out and said "we looked at planned prices for housing and realized it wasn't feasible and/or screwed the some aspect of the economy" from the get go.

[Shika]

I don't know if you took a break from the game since then or just haven't been in touch with the updates, but they stated the reason why lands prices were so high back then, ever since then whenever they add a new plot or an old plot frees up it will use the new price, 5m.

5m = price for FC, not for individual, and that's just small, only a few individuals will be able to afford a medium or large.

Ah ok fair enough.
It was an honest question after looking back at the old linked housing notes from the Lodestone post. Can't say I ever looked at FC housing prices that much.

[Aesu]

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Whether it be personal housing, large scale open world combat, or raids these servers during peak hours of the evening are still abysmal. We go back to the same issues when it comes to new content such as this: Issue with server load and resources.
Excuse me, but isn't it your job to foresee this and prepare resources needed for this large a scale of content? There are a few that are saying he and the development team had flat out lied to the player base and I think you're right, but I wouldn't stop there. I think they knew the way they structured their budget servers, and they did have a strict budget and actually still do due to all the bleeding of investors, that it wasn't going to be able to handle what they had planned a while ago.

You put it more eloquently than I could ever have.

[Iriadysa]

EVERYONE REBEL AND QUIT!

(This patch has been most entertaining in the forums)

[Colt47]

I think this should be a lesson: Don't implement something if it's going to piss everyone off! Someone is reasonably well off if they have 500k gil or more, and that is just a fraction of what is needed to buy one house. We are talking a literal log cabin in the woods that, if we go by the lumber market in this game, would probably only cost maybe 5% of what the damn things cost in the WARDS!

I don't know, this is just so bad that all I can do is roll around laughing.

If you guys think this is rough, go take a gander at Archeage and the insanity they had with their housing. Literally all the plots were taken up by people during the head start and many of them may or may not even be using the plots, having only unfinished houses sitting around dotting the landscape. We just don't have the man power to support open world housing in the MMO industry it seems, unless it's super competitive limited edition housing or something. I'm greatly interested to see where Shroud of the Avatar ends up.

[Sartori]

A while back it was stated that they wanted to make personal housing cheaper than Free Company housing. I believe Yoshi-P said that personal housing was supposed to be 850k but they were looking into lowering the cost. Now personal housing costs about as much as a Free Company house; what gives?

You were lied, to, again, get used to it

[hours]

If you guys think this is rough, go take a gander at Archeage and the insanity they had with their housing.

The "riots" that happened over at the AA forums make everyone here look like perfect, angelic, well-behaved players At least SE hasn't been threatened with lawsuits over housing yet!

[Iriadysa]

The "riots" that happened over at the AA forums make everyone here look like perfect, angelic, well-behaved players At least SE hasn't been threatened with lawsuits over housing yet!

Brb, going to AA forums

[Tiggy]

To the op the answer is simple. A crazy amount of gil is in circulation compared to then and now. It should have been obvious prices were going up. I was telling some FC mates a few weeks ago that I expected that number to be wrong.

A lot of people in this thread severely underestimated the hardware requirement to add new housing areas. Therefore they keep prices high to slow how quickly the zones fill up.