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    I'm not defending it, I'm appalled by it, I'm pointing out that the lore of the game that covers personal housing makes this inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I'm not defending it, I'm appalled by it, I'm pointing out that the lore of the game that covers personal housing makes this inevitable.
    Honestly the lore of the game is not a good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Honestly the lore of the game is not a good reason.
    Why not? In a virtual world, the lore is all we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Why not? In a virtual world, the lore is all we have.
    Because it isn't given the situation, wrapping it around lore just sounds like nonsense. People have been wanting this for a long time and Yoshida said it will be lower than FC housing. Using lore as a means is terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Because it isn't given the situation, wrapping it around lore just sounds like nonsense. People have been wanting this for a long time and Yoshida said it will be lower than FC housing. Using lore as a means is terrible.
    The lore is about all we have, other than a very poor translation error that has everybody jumping up and down and QQing about 850k. Back when housing was first announced, it was clearly stated that the 850k shown in the demo was not the real price and that the real price was probably higher. They have also repeatedly stated that prices depend on economic conditions on the worlds themselves. Other than that, please explain why the lore does not mater, it sounds to me like you wish to ignore the internal logic of the game for your personal convenience.

    Incidentally, Yoshida can say that the house will be cheaper and be perfectly correct, even if the land itself is the same price. I don't recall the patch notes indicating the costs of the house permits (it might have, I was skimming), but it did layout in detail the cost of the LAND, not the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The lore is about all we have, other than a very poor translation error that has everybody jumping up and down and QQing about 850k. Back when housing was first announced, it was clearly stated that the 850k shown in the demo was not the real price and that the real price was probably higher. They have also repeatedly stated that prices depend on economic conditions on the worlds themselves. Other than that, please explain why the lore does not mater, it sounds to me like you wish to ignore the internal logic of the game for your personal convenience.

    Incidentally, Yoshida can say that the house will be cheaper and be perfectly correct, even if the land itself is the same price. I don't recall the patch notes indicating the costs of the house permits (it might have, I was skimming), but it did layout in detail the cost of the LAND, not the house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post

    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    If he's gonna be vague about it then he just shouldn't say anything at all. Not everything has to be logic or toss it out. People just wanted a friggin house and not have it gated behind lore and what not. You wanna talk logic? then tell me how it's completely okay to give a an answer like that. It doesn't imply otherwise! You can say it does but that answer looks cut and dry that it would and should have been affordable. And not just affordable but FAR MORE the hell does this have to do with logic he went back on is word and dropped the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    If he's gonna be vague about it then he just shouldn't say anything at all.
    That particular quote is one that I would 100% agree is misleading if this 'personal housing' we are being given is what was planned all along.

    Not everything has to be logic or toss it out. People just wanted a friggin house and not have it gated behind lore and what not.
    Which more or less confirms what I said regarding lore vs convenience.

    As it happens I think this is a terrible way to do personal housing, it should not share zones with FC housing at all, and should have been done using special personal housing wards and some form of enhanced version of the private chamber - which would have allowed it to be less expensive, completely avoided trampling on the whole reason for FCs to exist, and given people like you the convenience you demand. but, sadly, and for reasons that are completely unclear to me, and everyone else with half a brain, they did not chose the easy road, but instead chose to make a rod for their own back. I told you I am not defending the personal housing implementation, perhaps you should listen to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I'm not defending it, I'm appalled by it, I'm pointing out that the lore of the game that covers personal housing makes this inevitable.
    Lets hope then in the future they add different housing wards somewhere else. Like in far-away lands yet to be tread upon by the feet of adventurers. Where silly ideas like owning land being a special privilege only for the rich don't exist.

    We'll probably have to lease the land from Moogles, though.
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