Personal Housing *SHOULD* be expensive...aka Yet Another Housing Topic

[TeaTimeBear]

Why not? In a virtual world, the lore is all we have.

Because it isn't given the situation, wrapping it around lore just sounds like nonsense. People have been wanting this for a long time and Yoshida said it will be lower than FC housing. Using lore as a means is terrible.

[RakaMaimhov]

I'm not defending it, I'm appalled by it, I'm pointing out that the lore of the game that covers personal housing makes this inevitable.

Lets hope then in the future they add different housing wards somewhere else. Like in far-away lands yet to be tread upon by the feet of adventurers. Where silly ideas like owning land being a special privilege only for the rich don't exist.

We'll probably have to lease the land from Moogles, though.

[Jodou]

Eh lore is a poor defense for what transpired. Personally, I thought they would have a general commons for people that just want a room without the need for an FC in addition to what we got. This to me would have been a fair compromise because 2.3 million players each having their own dream mansion just isn't possible.

Speaking for myself, I'm relieved player housing turned out to be FC houses for individuals. This is exactly what I've wanted since the day I laid eyes on FC mansions and I began planning/saving for months. I'm lucky enough that my hard work has paid off and will be able to afford the mansion of my dreams in just a few short hours, but to everyone that was lied to and shafted by this; you got a raw deal.

In time things will be set right, I'm sure of that but I agree the radio silence treatment for so long after they had a change of plans is pretty unacceptable.

[Kosmos992k]

Eh lore is a poor defense for what transpired. Personally, I thought they would have a general commons for people that just want a room without the need for an FC in addition to what we got.

Something like a personal chamber in a condominium style development perhaps? I agree, that is what I expected along with a 2 plot indoor garden. but throwing open the doors as they have now - without announcing an alternative available to the mass of players is just gonna piss everyone off - and is utterly predictable.

[Earendur]

Its the same houses as FC, same plot structure, same prices. It is lazy, to say this is going to be personal housing, but then it isnt. Its just FC housing with personal housing slapped on it. Just like everything else that is supost to be new, its just a re-skin.

[SongJoohee]

Gameplay > Lore.

Yoshida stated Personal Housing would be completely seperate and cheaper than Free Company housing, yet in reality it's identical to FC Housing, even using the same Wards as FC Houses.

I personally don't care about the costs, I care that Yoshida straight up lied to us and didn't even bother to tell us the reality.

[LeonBlade]

None of this matters, personal housing shouldn't have been done this way, it was said that it wasn't going to be done this way. Plain and simple.

[Endorendil]

Yes: cheap but equivalent land has to stay expensive, otherwise:
1) Everyone wants it and they need to provide about 100 times as many lots as they have.
2) FC's would lose a big 'raison d'etre'
3) With everyone having a garden, gardening would become an expensive hobby in stead of a solid contribution to an FC's wealth.

No: direct competition between FC and individuals KILLS FCs
I went online to buy a plot 5 minutes after the server went live and all my first choices had been sold already, not just in the new wards but also in the old wards. By the time I found a decent alternative (20 minutes later), I noticed people running in and buying the first lot that had not yet sold. I bet that by tonight there will not be a single small plot left to buy, and that FCs will have to buy medium or large houses from now on. Also anyone that did not buy a small house today will have to start saving for the next land rush, which will be even more hectic since people know the drill now.

Lowering prices will just make it worse. As it is, small houses are clearly too cheap. Supply is limited by server space (plus, the more wards, the more fragmented the player community becomes). The only thing that can be done is to reduce demand, which you can only do by reducing the desirability of the housing or raising the price. I would probably have bought a house in Coerthas or Mor Dhona where I could not stable a Chocobo (we have a stable at the FC house) but I might not have bought a house where I could not garden (the garden has to pay for the house). So I imagine that you could balance housing demand at lower prices if the new type of housing did not allow for gardens and/or stables.

I fully expect that this type of decontented housing will be coming in later patches. They might even have to start FC-only wards or find some other way to fix the problem that small FCs have now: no available land left.

[Qaaliaa]

The bottom line is that no matter what the Lore says, no matter how cheap people may have believed it would be, what was implemented is not personal housing. It is the same housing system we already had, only opened for purchase to folks without needing to be a Free Company.

If personal housing was not viable, they should have abandoned it altogether with an explanation as to why. On my server, Balmung, there are MANY FC's that do not have a house. To sell what are essentially FC houses to individuals not only limits people due to exorbitant costs, it also shuts out FAR more people who are in a houseless FC. That ONE HOUSE could have meant rooms for hundreds of people. Instead, we have a handful of people with houses and the rest?

Too bad for them.

Poorly communicated, poorly implemented. And like it or not, it will cost them players, which will in turn affect the game as a whole.

This is about a lot more than just housing.

[Defteros]

Lore-wise speaking...

I'm the warrior of light, they HAVE to give me a free house!
I deserved it!
I saved Eorzea, and all they do is letting me live under a bridge?
UNFAIR!!!!!1111