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  1. #1
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    tehomegaking's Avatar
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    Bird Brush
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 10

    Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

    To improve PvP game balance, the ability Cleric Stance will no longer be usable in PvP areas.
    I can't believe they've done this. Healing in FF pvp was the most fun I've ever had as a healer due to the dynamic switching between offense and defense. They just removed half the skill of the class. Why couldn't they have just toned it down? Flat out removal is a major slap in the face.

    There is no doubt this will cause us to see far less healers in FL, probably to the point where it will be a major concern.

    Most MMO's I've played it's ridiculously easy to stay alive on a healer vs harassers, but you can't put out much damage. In ff 14 due to the nature of casts interrupts, we can be easily nulled out and thus have to really fight for survival. I always figured our DPS potential was our means of countering this, a way to ward of players who decide to chase you down indefinitely. But now? Cast interruption on nearly every hit? Pitiful DPS? Essentially they've just made us giant punching bags that you can harass all day without the fear of dieing. Again, this is going to result in far less people wanting to heal in FL which could ultimately pose a serious threat to FL's activity.

    EDIT:

    Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a much bigger blow to scholars. WHM's can still disable you and get away to safety, what about scholar? No reliable CC's... not much ways to get dps away from you... your bio2/miasama which you probably had to blow a swift/sure or both to get out will wear off long before your opponent gets close to dieing... they've got very little means of fending off harassers and no longer will they have the fear element to keep players from trying to solo them. Yeah.. giant punching bags. Seems like it'd be a good idea to bring back the slow on Misama 1 now.
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    Last edited by tehomegaking; 09-16-2014 at 03:19 PM.

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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Velvet Velour
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Looks like SE agreed that healers were too strong, but I don't think this was the right solution.
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  3. #3
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    Zyphione's Avatar
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    Sy'rin Atarei
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 1
    Where is Gor?~
    I want to see Gor's reaction!

    In addition to this, I believe one of the problems if the 8 white mage party that is common in the JP frontlines where they will use cleric stance and equanimity to destroy the entire of the other party in seconds. If they come back, they would swiftcast a holy for the stun and everyone will organize to do chain holy to destroy the other party again.
    This is just my assumption however.
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    Last edited by Zyphione; 09-16-2014 at 01:44 PM.

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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Good bye healers. I won't be PvPing anymore, I guess.
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  5. #5
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    Atreus's Avatar
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphione View Post
    Where is Gor?~
    I want to see Gor's reaction!
    Something about a volcano of blood... 8(
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    Blubbers's Avatar
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    Blubbers Ubbers
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    1v1 healer vs healer duals just got a lot more boring
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  7. #7
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I'm in favor of every Healer going on strike. No heals for anyone (in frontlines) until we get Cleric stance back.

    ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ CLERIC STANC or RIOTヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

    The movement starts now.
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 09-16-2014 at 01:46 PM.

  8. #8
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    Zyphione's Avatar
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    Sy'rin Atarei
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Something about a volcano of blood... 8(
    or another very large tableflip emote!
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    Blessedbythesun's Avatar
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I was mortified after reading that Cleric Stance was removed from pvp. I have lost motivation to continue, even though I was doing it for the pvp gear for SCH.
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  10. #10
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    Namasu Agepoyo
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 51
    Coulda just been fine if they nerf % heal in pvp, but declawing healers by taking away cleric stance is just sad. I'm already stuck playing turtle when I 1v1 melee (they got really strong after the last buff) or any other dps, even with spamming all my cooldowns I can barely kill/survive against one if they know what they have the same amount of cooldown as me and know what they are doing. Now this basically mean I have to be even more passive in frontline just divine seal + medica 2 + regen. No more getting rewarded for switching cleric on/off at the right time. No more being able to fight off dps now because they can just constant interrupt my dps cast while they heal back everything with bloodbath. If you want to shoehorn healer role that bad then lower tanks str by 50% so they can't dps anymore and make their provoke work like a charm. This is just Yoshi and his team saying they have absolutely no f*cking idea how they want to balance frontline. Keep listening to whiners about how they can't kill healers all day Yoshi.

    Terible patch for frontline. Might be a close nail in the coffin ontop of their negligence with the queue problems. I expect many healers to be discourage and switch as well as a nice amount of backlash on the JP PVP forum.
    (I'll give then a tiny tiny bit of props in highlighting controlled objective by faction color)

    Shhh no tears just dream now.
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    Last edited by Namasu; 09-16-2014 at 02:03 PM.

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