Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Arrik]

Hey majorj0nny,
Just happened to be browsing the thread and noticed you are Cerberus server. If you need help feel free to send me a tell if I'm on, my characters are Laura Bailey and Rebecca Oriane. Alternatively, you can stop by the Shadowwarriaz FC in Plot 6, Ward 2 of Gridania if you need help or a FC. We typically don't do leveling as most of the leadership is done w/ that, but we are a mostly social FC that can offer advice on most jobs and we have a few crafters to help you right your gear.

[majorj0nny]

Or on the other hand could be that they do not know what they are doing and ask people for advice, kinda like what the OP said.

this is exactly my issue - there is an assumption in these dungeons that the reason Im doing stuff is to just be a dick .. or that Im an idiot or something. I never play as healer or tank ... tbh I wouldn't know how to decided to pick that as an option in the first place .. I just click the duty finder and select a dungeon - so far its mainly been the ones chucked up by the main storyline. and Ive tried to go with the flow. last night I thought we were doing well - then someone said "why don't you have any jewelry? ... why aint you a bard???" then some other abuse about me being the worse bard ever.... its frustrating when Its not something I intentionally meant to do.

[majorj0nny]

Hey majorj0nny,
Just happened to be browsing the thread and noticed you are Cerberus server. If you need help feel free to send me a tell if I'm on, my characters are Laura Bailey and Rebecca Oriane. Alternatively, you can stop by the Shadowwarriaz FC in Plot 6, Ward 2 of Gridania if you need help or a FC. We typically don't do leveling as most of the leadership is done w/ that, but we are a mostly social FC that can offer advice on most jobs and we have a few crafters to help you right your gear.

thank you that's very helpful

[TimGoodacre]

^^^

There are lots of good people around and you can learn lots from them - the game has no real "manual" and much of what you learn is from other people's experience. I know how dispiriting the bad seeds can be and their impact is far more than their number. Just gotta learn to ignore them (hard as this can be), and also learn as much as you can from all the good folk around.

[Eye_Gore]

Hey majorj0nny,
Just happened to be browsing the thread and noticed you are Cerberus server. If you need help feel free to send me a tell if I'm on, my characters are Laura Bailey and Rebecca Oriane. Alternatively, you can stop by the Shadowwarriaz FC in Plot 6, Ward 2 of Gridania if you need help or a FC. We typically don't do leveling as most of the leadership is done w/ that, but we are a mostly social FC that can offer advice on most jobs and we have a few crafters to help you right your gear.

This right here is your best bet for some help. They'll be able able to set you up and in the right direction, not so sure you're getting the help needed here.

[Alukah]

That is actually a good advice. Why would you want someone that has no idea of what he's doing on an important role that can easily break a party? I've had tanks at Lv40 that still have no idea of what they're doing and the only result is having to disband or kick the tank, resulting in a much longer wait.

Because people have to learn somehow, no one started this game knowing exactly how to tank or how to heal, if everyone followed that mindset we wouldn't have seen a single healer or tank at launch, or the current queue times for low level dungeons would be 10x what they are right now, since only people leveling alts would be leveling tanks and healers.

We as old players should be the ones teaching those new tanks and healers how to play properly, not denying them the chance to try out a role that isn't faceroll easy as DPS.

[majorj0nny]

Gear level on newbies is something I let slide unless its so low that it's detrimental to the dungeon completion, like a lvl 40 tank using lvl 20 gear or a healer that cannot keep up with the incoming dmg.

I realized this in one dungeon when I was still wearing a silly lv 1 shirt ... Id changed to it for some reason and never changed back... but the healer did say that I was wearing a crappy shirt that was making it hard for them to keep me healed - so my bad - I changed it. but my point is that 'until' you know these things - a newbie aint going to know them. so its pointless people being aggressive

[majorj0nny]

plain language: your armor & weapon = left side slots, your jewel = right side slots

This is your character on lodes, as you can see your clothes & weapon are ok, but on the jewel/accesorry, neck & wrist are missing, 1 spirit bound ring, earring and the other ring is to low. Your jewel help absolute nothing, but only slow it down for the other. They need some love as well, upgrade them !

ps: if you read my reply, I tried my best to explain

ahhh ... so ... my thinking in this ... obviously wrong. but initially when I was stepping up my clothing as I got better defensive or magic defence - I noticed the jewelry was often very low ... or nothing.. so I just assumed it was for show .? but now I see a whole load of 'bonuses' so now I know I can take a look at that.

[majorj0nny]

edit: while we are at it, I believe BRD can have cross skill from LNC/DRG, you need to get it to vl 15 as well, not just PGL. You are in a FC with a lot of lvl 50 character, it is a good idea to ask them for guideline before do something (it is a bonus, take it or not is up to you)

thanks - I didn't see this reply - too many other replies.. lol

"ppl usually expect other ppl to .." is something I run into a LOT in this game ... this assumption that I should know all this stuff .. and abide by these expectations.

the multiple disciplines thing is something Im very new too also ... I only looked into becoming a bard when someone was confused as to why I wasn't one already ... something I was confused about myself. so I only leveled up to 15 PGL last week. I'll look into the same for lancer perhaps.

[Defteros]

I realized this in one dungeon when I was still wearing a silly lv 1 shirt ... Id changed to it for some reason and never changed back... but the healer did say that I was wearing a crappy shirt that was making it hard for them to keep me healed - so my bad - I changed it. but my point is that 'until' you know these things - a newbie aint going to know them. so its pointless people being aggressive

being a DPS in a dungeon, means that most of the time, if the others know their role, Healers should'nt even have to heal you most of the time, unless:
1. tank was not taking aggro on mobs
2. you pulled mobs from the tank, but looking at your gear, i find it hard to believe...
3. you were hit by every single AOE

so... it was not entirely your fault, I suppose xD