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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I'm not arguing about Skill Speed. We know that doesn't affect AA. He's saying that GL doesn't affect AA speed, which is false. I just tested again.

    Duration of test: 513 seconds (8m33s)
    Weapon delay: 2.56 seconds (Wave Patas)
    Expected attacks if no affect: ~200
    Observed attacks: 235
    i think youre mistaken. No buffs affects Auto attacks. Auto attack is set per the weapon. Check your combat log or parser and youll see
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosys View Post
    Check your combat log or parser and youll see
    WTF do you think I did? >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosys View Post
    i think youre mistaken. No buffs affects Auto attacks. Auto attack is set per the weapon. Check your combat log or parser and youll see
    No sir, you are the one that should test here.

    5 minutes no skills. 111 auto attacks.
    5 minutes with GL3. 130 auto attacks.

    Both done with the same gear.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    WTF do you think I did? >_>
    No reason to get sarcastic. I just tested again and I am still coming up with identical numbers so maybe I am doing something different or wrong. Ill note it in the vid though. Thx for the input
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    Last edited by Xenosys; 09-14-2014 at 08:46 AM.

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    Virdiana is the one who is correct here. Greased Lightning is an Attack Speed increase, not Skill Speed therefore it affects the amount of Auto-Attacks done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosys View Post
    No reason to get sarcastic. I just tested again and I am still coming up with identical numbers so maybe I am doing something different or wrong. Ill note it in the vid though. Thx for the input
    How are you testing? I suspect there's an error in your test method, then.
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  7. #17
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    Xenosys Vex
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    Yea you guys are correct, thx for the catch! Oversight is on my part!
    Apparently after reinstalling ACT has given me different results haha
    Updated in Video!
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    Last edited by Xenosys; 09-14-2014 at 12:29 PM.

  8. #18
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosys View Post
    Yea you guys are correct, thx for the catch! Oversight is on my part!
    Apparently after reinstalling ACT has given me different results haha
    Updated in Video!
    Okay, good to know we aren't all insane or something. All in all, it's just one more reason why Determination is a true MAN STAT(tm) for Monks, given that it's been observed that it buffs autoattacks more than weaponskills. Um, that is the case, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Um, that is the case, right?
    I remember hearing that, but I don't think anyone ever provided math for it. I usually just treat AA as 100 potency per 3 seconds and call it good. . .
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Okay, good to know we aren't all insane or something. All in all, it's just one more reason why Determination is a true MAN STAT(tm) for Monks, given that it's been observed that it buffs autoattacks more than weaponskills. Um, that is the case, right?
    Yea Det IMO is the best secondary for monk. Thats a good question! In my tests I actually didnt see how much it affected Auto attacks since it is the best choice for weapon skill damage anyway. So if thats true, that makes it even better haha!
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