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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerclaw View Post
    lol @ GTFO from you. The last resort of the temper tantrum throwers who want to be exclusive with their gear.
    That's pretty much the only semblance of decency I can accord to the likes of people like you. I've seen my share of entitled gamers over the years and they've done nothing but destroy this genre of games.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    Many players also just lack the patience. My guild currently has 5 statics, and we're forming our 6th static. With formation of all of the statics, we've run into the exact same problems repeatedly.
    Sometimes a lack of patience isn't due to what you think it is. Many static groups require members to be in their Free Company. All of the groups that I have talked with in my own search has been this way. The problem? I'm already IN a Free Company that I'm not interested in leaving, as much as I would like to get the content done. Final Fantasy has this unique aspect about it that wasn't really present in other mmos, and unfortunately, I'm a victim of that "family" mentality as well. In WoW? I hopped guilds all day long to get where I wanted to be. Here? It's a little more complicated due to the nature of the game.

    It's not a good thing, not a bad thing, just one of those things that *is*. So what you see as impatience could be due to a person wanting to get back into their *home*, so to speak, because you required that they leave it in order to be in your static group. This problem didn't happen in XI because we could hold multiple linkshells and linkshells were all that was available. Now, we have to make hard choices and it's other players that are forcing that.

    For me, I'm sticking with my FC and if I manage to find a static that doesn't require me to join theirs, great. If not, that's ok too. Just remember there's any number of reasons someone might drop out of your static after 2-3 weeks of nothing happening, and it's probably not what you think it is.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Sometimes a lack of patience isn't due to what you think it is. Many static groups require members to be in their Free Company. All of the groups that I have talked with in my own search has been this way.
    Then to be frank you haven't been asking particularly nice people to static up. I finally got my Turn 5 clear last weekend (and then went back in to kill it two more times) and one of the guys I won with invited me to an LS. A couple days later he asked me to fill in a hole in his static and suddenly here I am with a T6 kill and having seen Melusine fall to 29% HP. He did ask me to join his FC but I said I was already part of one and he was totally fine with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerclaw View Post
    Who said the best gear should only belong to people who spam raids? You are the "literal"[sic] embodiment of lolelitism.
    You mean the best gear should go to the people who are talented and dedicated enough to clear the hardest content in the game? Knock me over with a feather, what an ABSURD concept!
    And no, you haven't put "FAR more effort into the game". I spent MONTHS learning and finally, FINALLY managing to take down Twintania. Before I did I'd already gathered a group of five others who shared my goal of reaching or even beating Turn 9 before patch 2.4 hits. And I've put in hours upon hours of effort in just the past week alone struggling to learn and understand Melusine so we can take her down. (T8 is gonna feel like such a cakewalk after all that bullshit with her melee adds...)
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    Last edited by Brine_Gildchaff; 09-12-2014 at 10:55 PM.

  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff View Post
    Then to be frank you haven't been asking particularly nice people to static up.
    You haven't really told me anything I didn't already know, though I appreciate your reply. In fact, I think the XIV community is one of the worst I've seen in well over a decade of MMO gaming. Look at the fight in this very thread, on this very page. Absolutely infantile.
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  5. #115
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    I didn't think this thread could devolve based on where it started....Man, was I proven wrong.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    You are literally blind if you think this game is anything other than casual. 4 raid encounters per half year, the rest of the content is casual. Hunts award equal ilvl gear as raids (which I should add only applies in this game) for literally mouth breathing into your keyboard and you are still unsatisfied. You want the definition of entitled. There you go.
    Oh really? You can get ilvl115 weapons from the Hunt! That's great news!
    You still don't understand "entitled" or "literal", but I guess that's why you're you are incapable of understanding the real issues.
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  7. #117
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    People that SCoB since 2.2 have literally nothing to do in 2.3 & Weekly lockout killed it fir both Static/pug.
    Statics 1 shotting reduces the longevity of the game but also stops you from playing with others.
    Pugs will eventually be plagued with the people you dont want in Statics cause theyre an ass welcoming all first timers.
    All the good people whether for skill or personality will form their own Static.

    Every time I make a PF asking for clear exp and a bonus 100 myth pops up, I swear people would stand there for 5+mins witch hunting before starting & threatening people(T6-7).

    SE could easily make coil like crystal tower but theyre deliberately screwing us over. Friends cant join/help, longer PF times, have people that are too scared to even do SCoB cause practice parties either takes too long or never fills.

    I could go on forever in regards to this, I know a few people that havent even done t6 and have been playing since Beta...
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  8. #118
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Sometimes a lack of patience isn't due to what you think it is. Many static groups require members to be in their Free Company. All of the groups that I have talked with in my own search has been this way. The problem? I'm already IN a Free Company that I'm not interested in leaving, as much as I would like to get the content done. Final Fantasy has this unique aspect about it that wasn't really present in other mmos, and unfortunately, I'm a victim of that "family" mentality as well. In WoW? I hopped guilds all day long to get where I wanted to be. Here? It's a little more complicated due to the nature of the game.

    It's not a good thing, not a bad thing, just one of those things that *is*. So what you see as impatience could be due to a person wanting to get back into their *home*, so to speak, because you required that they leave it in order to be in your static group. This problem didn't happen in XI because we could hold multiple linkshells and linkshells were all that was available. Now, we have to make hard choices and it's other players that are forcing that.

    For me, I'm sticking with my FC and if I manage to find a static that doesn't require me to join theirs, great. If not, that's ok too. Just remember there's any number of reasons someone might drop out of your static after 2-3 weeks of nothing happening, and it's probably not what you think it is.
    People clearly tend to state that they're leaving due to the formation taking more time than they expected, or the progression taking more time than they expected.

    Asides from that, the choice to have people be a part of the FC is most often a logistical issue. Communication gets really troublesome if not all players are part of the same channel. If raiders cannot make use of the FC buffs because they're not part of the FC, etc. It is a shame in that sense that SE decided to separate LS's and FC's. Rather than allow people to be a part of multiple FC's at the same time as e.g. GW2's system. Allowing for players to be part of a raiding FC, social FC, whatever FC if they wish at the same time.

    On the same hand though, there's also plenty of linkshell statics for single group statics around. Even from players who go down that path, there's often still those who leave prior to the formation or without giving it a good amount of attempts as they keep on seeking faster progression. And such linkshell statics go perfectly hand-in-hand with being in different FC's.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerclaw View Post
    Oh really? You can get ilvl115 weapons from the Hunt! That's great news!
    You still don't understand "entitled" or "literal", but I guess that's why you're you are incapable of understanding the real issues.
    Oh snap! The HA weapon that I got equipped now is i115 and not i110. How nice for you to enlighten me on that. You clearly need to look up the meaning of double entendre. Here I'll do it for you

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_entendre

    The real issue is simple. You just need to look into a mirror.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerclaw View Post
    You can't use PF half the time, and obviously I know how to use PF to find a static. My hours are not consistent. Sorry I am not sitting in PF while hunting or doing ID/Trials. Tbh why should I have to have a static anyway? Why is that the epitome of gaming?
    you either do Trials, or you clear Binding Coil.
    you can't do both.

    you need to sort your priorities.

    nobody said you NEED a static.
    nobody stops you from trying Coil with pugs.
    but nobody can guarantee you will clear it this way.

    if your playtime it's so random and you can't wait to a party finder to fill, I'm afraid but endgame it's not for you.
    you can still get ilv110 gear while doing hunt, so what's the problem.

    edit: oh, you want an Ilv115 weapon?
    for what, if you don't have the time to do coil?
    you need to kill the S rank faster?

    just wait till next patch, you will probably be able to get every weapon to 115 without a single effort.
    still no problem.
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    Last edited by Defteros; 09-12-2014 at 11:08 PM.
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