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  1. #31
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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    I should have probably mentioned that we do not have a SMN. I could go SMN but have always gone on BLM up until now. Our DPS is MNK, DRG, BRD, BRD, BLM (me)


    Thank you for everyones input on this. I am confident that with a slight strategy change, we will consistently get one ghost.
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    Last edited by NyneAlexander; 09-09-2014 at 10:42 PM.

  2. #32
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    As others have said, you should caster lb3 the 1st ghost. Before my static got a smn i used to do it as blm. Toss a hardcasted flare>convert>sc flare>transpose>lb. If you still can't push one ghost then your group is probably doing to much extra dmg to the first one. With three ranged it should be really easy to lighten up the dmg to ghost and just switch back to it if it somehow lives through lb.

    If your group is dying too much in the last phase, just try to remind everyone that there isn't a dps check after ghost. Technically there's the hard enrage, but that takes forever. Once you start downing consistently then you can afford to go into the "rawr im gonna maximize" mentality, but it's 1000000 times more important to nail the mechanics.
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  3. #33
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    Orlandeu's Avatar
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    Reis Heiral
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Our group's strategy to just get one ghost is the same as everybody else's. Caster LB both nael and the ghost. However, I stay on nael the whole time. I'm a dragoon and I have all my CDs, including xpot on that phase.
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  4. #34
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    Rinh'sae Poales
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    The way my group gets 1 ghost is we melee LB3 Nael during the first heaven's fall (the melee goes for it as soon as Nael's come back down after megaflare (which incidentally, when heaven's fall knocks him back, it knocks him out of animation lock!). Then we just burn down the ghost and continue smacking on Nael. We've started to push Nael into the next phase during the second heaven's fall (would you like a bahamut's favour with your heaven's fall? It caught us by surprise the first time).

    Our set up is: PLD, WAR, WHM, SCH, DRG, DRG, BRD, SMN.
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  5. #35
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    Zenaku's Avatar
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Just like other have said have someone call everything. Like Person A got thunder move out Fire in and get ready for divebombs look at makers and get ready if you have it. Also don't worry about DPS focus on getting everything right once you guys done it you then can focus on doing more dps to get the fight done faster.

    Then once you won turn 9 then you can just jump in the game one day a week then log off unless you have other things to do lol.
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  6. #36
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    Avalon Albrook
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Just so the misinformation doesn't happen-- Nael will USUALLY jump to the person who has fire out and then do her dynamo. But this isn't always the case. Always stay aware. Like our poor whm in our second clear who ate a dynamo as a result...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEDnLM_DLc#t=420
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  7. #37
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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    ugh.. just ugh...

    So now our problem is we don't have LB3 built by the first ghost. In fact, that was always our problem, and why we stopped using meteor on the first ghost in the first place, now that I think about it.

    We tried everything we could think of:

    Purposefully getting 5 comets
    Starting the fight w/o stoneskin.
    purposefully eating other peoples meteor streams in the first phase
    Standing in the earthen heart fire
    Having the whm spam sleep on Nael between heals
    Not stoneskinning before megaflare
    Standing a bit closer to the golem drop

    It just isn't happening. I'd say, 30% of the time, we'd get to the first ghost and actually have 3LB.

    Again, our set up is: WAR, WHM, SCH, BLM, MNK, DRG, BRD, BRD

    Is there any other way to fill the LB bar faster? Do any of you push one ghost with 2LB?
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  8. #38
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    We actually two tank it, but the second tank only tanks during golems and the ghost. He goes full STR Acc as well.
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  9. #39
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    mero-ix's Avatar
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    Luna'li Sky
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    Is there any other way to fill the LB bar faster? Do any of you push one ghost with 2LB?
    We often go into Heaven's Fall with only a LB2, but we use it--like Ronove said--on Nael and just burn the Ghost and we don't get a second Ghost. We have two DRGs instead of two BRDs, though..
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  10. #40
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Do you use a LB at any other point? I'd like to think our group's DPS is pretty good (4-sometimes-3 meteors, 1 ghost, push last phase during 2nd heavensfall) and we have so far always had LB3 for dragon; at worst we hit LB3 during the first heavensfall "pulse" about 10s before dragon spawns. Our setup is PLD WAR(str OT) WHM SCH BRD BRD DRG BLM.

    By virtue of the natural LB+ you get for just spending time in combat, it seems almost impossible that you don't hit LB3 by that point.
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