I'm not saying the new gun class is going to be... but its going to be...

[Aliquis]

Wouldn't the gun class most likely be Corsair from FFXI? Fits so well with the limsa pirate theme as well.

As I said before...

Yeah but like I said Corsair is way too much the EXPECTED gun class and Yoshida said it is not what will be expected. Machinist is a lesser known gun class but doesnt fit the Musketeer. RDM fits the musketeer but the only range RDM ever used was a small handful of short bows in FFXI.

Though someone else in the thread had mentioned that originally in FFXI RDM was able to use guns.

[Duelle]

Though someone else in the thread had mentioned that originally in FFXI RDM was able to use guns.

RDM had access to guns during vanilla FFXI. Much like PLD there could use axes and great axes when zilart came out. There was something of a jobs revamp at one point, where RDM lost a lot of the stuff it started with (Flash, access to guns) and was turned into the lolenfeebler/refreshbot we know today. This said, guns were VERY minor in FFXI if your class was not Ranger, and even then sparsely used due to how expensive ammo could be. As such, I wouldn't use it as a sign of things to come here. It's a possibility, but one I hope is VERY unlikely.

Unless they make this:

Which is a female variation of this character's outfit from Tactics Ogre. Yes it looks awesome and I agree that XIV's designers should take some inspiration from this design for the RDM aesthetic (they owe us after the horrible outfits from that third FFXIII game and Bravely Default), but the gun is a very minor detail in the greater whole. Something that should not happen to a gun-centered class.

Honestly, if you talk to me about musketeer, I often think of this. Despite it being from Granado Espada, the outfit design would very easily fit into Limsa's aesthetic with few, if any, adjustments.

[Aliquis]

RDM had access to guns during vanilla FFXI. Much like PLD there could use axes and great axes when zilart came out. There was something of a jobs revamp at one point, where RDM lost a lot of the stuff it started with (Flash, access to guns) and was turned into the lolenfeebler/refreshbot we know today.

^This guy obviously knows nothing about RDM today. RDM is not a refresh whore. RDM generally gets used in Delves(being in the 2nd party and the only member in the second party) where yes they enfeeble but they also nuke to remove auras and they are the only ones who rely on their Refresh II. Also RDM now gets Haste II that no other class gets but GEO who has their own version. Another spell is Frazzle and Frazzle II that boosts Range attack speed. BRD is the one who gives out the "Refresh" with x3 Ballads giving up to a 30+ mp/tick refresh where RDMs refresh II is 8/tick. EDIT: Oh cor gives refresh with Evokers rolls also

Also COR is a decent DPS with their gun. Since COR often gets brought along for their roles it is highly expected that they contribute with DMG when they are not rolling.

What you know of FFXI at all is of YESTERDAY.

Aliquis, I think your idea is cool, but you are giving out way to much bias towards what you want to see (which it's fine, you're the OP and it's essentially your thread and your ideas). It's more than likely not going to go that way, if they continue to go through with their earlier plans for Musketeer:

Live Letter III -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...SH2jkjw#t=925s

I'm not going to even bother with this guy because of this...

url - Streamed live on Sep 14, 2012

I'm pretty sure the whole speal of what we are NOT expecting is that its not going to fall along the earlier plans and details abotu musketeeer.

[ZReport]

I'm pretty sure the whole speal of what we are NOT expecting is that its not going to fall along the earlier plans and details abotu musketeeer.

Right, and everyone is just supposed to believe your half-random ideas.

OK man, but at least I'm going off of old legitimate facts that were said by the devs themselves. It has more of a basis than your stuff.

BTW I had already mentioned the stuff I posted was old already. However it still holds a basis. Especially when you see some of their ideas come out in a cutscene in 2.2.

[Aliquis]

the gunner class is going to be blue mage

I actually think this is a reasonable possibility.

I really disagree with Chemist. It is something that is possible in 11 but not in the simplification of 14.

Machinist/Engineer is a VERY possible out come because of Cid.