Thurmaturge OWNED

[Amas]

yeah take a look at XI. Enfeebling class = suckage no one wants in a party

Except that Poison, Bio, and Dia are all very potent DoTs. If the recasts on Bio & Dia were adjusted so that a THM could realistically keep them all up full-time, and a resist didn't hose DPS for 40 seconds or so, it would be fine as a DPS, enfeebler, and backup healer.

Whether the FFXI community would accept that or not is still in question, but just because FFXI did things certain ways doesn't mean FFXIV has to. DoT mages are and should be MMO mainstays, including in FFXIV.

[Reika]

Also, let's see just how much they buffed the THM nukes before we cry too much.

I should hope THM attacks are much more stronger now.

Another thing to note is that they didnt de-aoe/single select EVERY spell. I like this.

[Abriael]

Can't say we didn't see it come.

[Abriael]

I should hope THM attacks are much more stronger now.

Not sure if that'll happen, THM was already beastly when used in debuffer/DOT mode, even without touching a single heal.

[darkstarpoet1]

yep, seen it coming and been saying i was going to hate the changes since he started talking about them. well i enjoyed the game while it lasted.

[Phenidate]

Overall I think this is good for the game. No content was ever going to be challenging with CON's and THM's pissing down endless AOE heals all over everyone.

It was bad game design and it's being fixed.

People are going to be upset but the fact that we could cast (essentially) Curaga at the same cost as Cure also struck me as... patently wrong especially for a FF game.

It won't be as easy I agree with you on the benefits to game play.

great so now THM has lackluster cures and crappy debuffs. Well, one less class anyone is going to want to play.

What dots have you been casting? Any time I've fought a monster that can take more than a hand full of banish/scourge nukes went down easier with the application of DOTs.

I was taking down things 8-10 ranks over my THM's rank with just about nothing other than Dia, Bio and Poison alone.

I can't say I agree with the idea that THM should be the offensive caster of this game given how they are presented in the lore; they are supposed to be from the school of Life AND Death. Conjurers were just tree huggers with nature nukes in comparison...

[Rentahamster]

You guys forget, those who have leveled conj can still use curaga on THM...unless i'm misreading something.

Can't. AOE cure is CON only.

[dev1032] The following conjurer-specific spells have been introduced:

[Reika]

Can't. AOE cure is CON only.

So.... Great buffalo without a Conj anyone?

hell anything without a conj.... SE just added a "MUST HAVE IN PT" Class..

[Technyze]

These nerfs are making the game more challenging and fun now though, there shouldnt be a single Thau that is upset, incoming enmity / mp management ftw.

[Alxa]

Patch Notes say accuracy overall is improved - if that includes DoTs that'd be nice.

I got THM to 45 yesterday, guessing I won't be healing with it in raids Good thing CON is already 50. I always hated how CON was worthless with 50 THM... so I'm happy for this.