Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[Dhex]

*starts PF, checks kill experience only. guy who paid for a coil win steps in, does something stupid, wipes team" XD

>>Creates PF "Will kick anyone that dies!"
>>Dies first.
>>Blames lag.

edit: Kutcher comes out from behind the boss, "You've been punk'd!"

[JustPlainLucas]

>>Creates PF "Will kick anyone that dies!"
>>Dies first.
>>Blames lag.

*joins that party, leader keeps dying, I get kicked when I Need on gear I can use* Oh joy...

[Alukah]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging people to lie, but this is a player issue created by this exclusion itself, we don't need a system feature to encourage more this exclusion, we need ways to solve it, until then parties are free to deal with it in any way they find convenient.

[ispano]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging people to lie, but this is a player issue created by this exclusion itself, we don't need a system feature to encourage more this exclusion, we need ways to solve it, until then parties are free to deal with it in any way they find convenient.

Oh the solution is simple yet not simple all at the same time. Poor players are why people put the rules in in the first place, with a secondary set putting it in, but being said poor player(ie the one looking for a carry). Fix is get better.

[Ashkendor]

*joins that party, leader keeps dying, I get kicked when I Need on gear I can use* Oh joy...

Honestly, if you join a Greed party and roll Need on things, I'd kick you for not abiding by the party rules.

It seems like nobody reads the party description. I don't write it for my health here, people.

[Volcano]

Honestly, if you join a Greed party and roll Need on things, I'd kick you for not abiding by the party rules.

It seems like nobody reads the party description. I don't write it for my health here, people.

Then people should start going as the job if they want a specific item. Getting mad at someone who needs on the item they can actually USE is pretty stupid. regardless of your made up rules.

[AdamFyi]

Then people should start going as the job if they want a specific item. Getting mad at someone who needs on the item they can actually USE is pretty stupid. regardless of your made up rules.

Actually, if I recall correctly, SE made a statement about loot rules and that if you join a party, you must abide by that loot rule (If any exist) that has been set by the group. Failure to abide by the loot rules set by the group can be reported and action will possibly be taken.

Edit: Correct me if I'm mistaken though.

Edit-edit: Found it!

Greetings,

One of the first things we are looking into doing is adding a system so information is displayed in the chat log regarding who lotted on an item.

We've received a lot of requests to make it possible to pass after you've already lotted on an item, but due to the current system as well as prospects for the future we do not have any plans to implement this at the moment.

Also, while this isn't limited to only the topic at hand, it's extremely difficult to prevent human error by creating perfect rules within the game system as it becomes something that forces players to go through a cumbersome process. (Such as going through multiple confirmation windows.)

Naturally we will continue to make changes to the system for improvements, but ultimately we feel that there are situations where we would like you to decide on the rules amongst yourselves. Before entering a duty, make sure that all party members are informed of the agreement and who is able to lot on which item. All party members should agree to those terms before entering to ensure an agreement is clearly understood.

Breaking these agreements, or behavior that imposes on other players' enjoyment of the game, will not be tolerated. If after an investigation it's confirmed that a player clearly understood the rules when joining a group and still acted in such a manner, proper action will be taken against the player, which may include confiscation of the item or account suspension, so please avoid doing anything like this.

[Volcano]

Actually, if I recall correctly, SE made a statement about loot rules and that if you join a party, you must abide by that loot rule (If any exist) that has been set by the group. Failure to abide by the loot rules set by the group can be reported and action will possibly be taken.

Edit: Correct me if I'm mistaken though.

Edit-edit: Found it!

They also made a statment that third party tools are not tolerated and will result in account supension/termination and yet bots are running around freely, destroying the market and still there after reports have been filed, so you'll have to excuse me if they don't "act" on this. so far no one has been silly enough to put such rules up as of yet, since people understand people actually need things. but it's nice you pointed that out.

[AdamFyi]

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Woah, woah - I have to stop you there. There is no need for the hostility towards anyone, especially SE. Botting is an entirely different problem altogether and they can't just ban people because players assume they are botting. You'd have a case of false accusations beong thrown around left and right. That's why they opted to ban bots periodically instead of once they received a report. This gives them time to investigate.

Alright, getting a little sidetracked here. As for your last statement, yes it is true, but I've seen some greed parties and such, but usually they fall under farming. People usually can negotiate within the group if they want loot.

Anyway, I don't see too much of a problem with having this feature. It would only affect those who want to farm for loot and those who want a free carry. Good players can still ask leaders for exceptions to the group.

[ispano]

They also made a statment that third party tools are not tolerated and will result in account supension/termination and yet bots are running around freely, destroying the market and still there after reports have been filed, so you'll have to excuse me if they don't "act" on this. so far no one has been silly enough to put such rules up as of yet, since people understand people actually need things. but it's nice you pointed that out.

Except the point of putting a rule up in PF, is for people to, you know, FOLLOW said rule. If someone puts up a greed only party in PF, and you join(agreeing to the rule) and then proceed to break that rule, that's effectively harassment of one type. It's a trust issue. And while they will never say anything about how many times they've acted on said reports, I'm betting they've done it at least a few times.