What am i doing wrong in the Ixal quests?

[PArcher]

My rotation for this quest didn't give me 100% (the class I was using is one of the ones I haven't melded at all...I just really like the BSM AF gear...) but is good enough for at least 80% no Good procs, so unless you're really unlucky, its good enough.

Comfort Zone
Inner Quiet
Waste Not
Steady Hand II
Hasty Touch x4
Steady Hand II
Basic Touch (x2 if I have the CP)
Byregot's Blessing
Careful Synthesis 2 x2

Use Tricks of the Trade after Inner Quiet, Hasty Touch #4, or anytime after the second Steady Hands II (unless you won't be able to get Byregot's buffed by it)

Yeah, I know that's using a lot of lv50 abilities, and yeah...if you don't have Byregot's or Steady Hand II I HIGHLY recommend getting them

[Elim]

I got 100% HQ on my CUL using hasty touch, master's mend and basic synthesis. It took me awhile to find a class I could actually do it on. It was annoying and I can't imagine how brand new crafters will enjoy this.

EDIT: Thanks for clarifying for me.

[Jeykama]

I think some of the people responding to this thread are lying or they didn't do the quest. You can't use cross-class skills for this craft. You also can't use high level skills so Byregot's and Steady Hand II are out of the question.

I got 100% HQ on my CUL using hasty touch, master's mend and basic synthesis. It took me awhile to find a class I could actually do it on. It was annoying and I can't imagine how brand new crafters will enjoy this.

If you didn't notice, the synths for Camp Dragonhead involve all 3 crafting buffs (more like debuffs) encountered so far - Specialization II (no crossclass), Detailing II (-CP), and Finishing II (-CP too I think? haven't done these yet). If you accept all of the components at once you could end up with all 3 buffs, which ... kind of sucks. Pay attention and make sure you only have the appropriate buff for the synth or you could be in for a rough fight.

[Alukah]

I think some of the people responding to this thread are lying or they didn't do the quest. You can't use cross-class skills for this craft. You also can't use high level skills so Byregot's and Steady Hand II are out of the question. At least the ones I did were like that.

I got 100% HQ on my CUL using hasty touch, master's mend and basic synthesis. It took me awhile to find a class I could actually do it on. It was annoying and I can't imagine how brand new crafters will enjoy this.

Do only one quest at a time, when you finish crafting right click the buff icon to remove the restriction before turning in another quest, if you stack different (de)buffs you will have a really bad time.

Mining for Compliments will give you Specialization II (no cross class)
A High Wind in Ishgard will give you Detailing II (-150 CP)
Bring Your Own Ectoplasm will give you Detailing II (-150 CP)

Not sure about the other three quests but from these three you can only do 2nd and 3rd with the same buff.

[Elim]

Ah. So if you don't pay attention you get screwed over with debuffs. Gotcha.

Which one restricts high level skills or do all of them? Because that's the part that annoys me the most - they punish you for being a high level crafter instead of rewarding you by making things easier. I'm sure that's in place to make it "fair" but clearly I don't agree.

[Alukah]

I don't think any of them restricts high level skills, I've been doing all quests until now using Careful Synthesis II.

Though I have yet to see the Finishing II debuff, the last time we used Finishing I was for rank 1 crafts, I think it halved your progress.

[Zoeila]

im doing this on my 50 cul and having a real hard time getting the quality above 20% i just dont have enough cp to work with. and im not blowing what little gil i have on melds just for this quest

[ish007xx]

lol i have no problems with these quest i use cul thats decked out with i75 tool as well, next week should hit rank 7. I can see these quests being hard on newbies crafters maybe

[gamersince1976]

There's really no need to be elitist about it. These ARE surprisingly tough at the rank 6 levels, and I have all DoH maxed. Though I didn't consider that I was stacking all 3 debuffs (really should pay closer attention) - so that should make things easier. The good news is that you can retry, on the spot, an infinite amount of times.

It's an interesting idea, "forcing" people who've never touched DoH/DoL to give them a shot. From what I've seen from my FC mates, people aren't hating it nearly as much as I thought they would. Plus, all that free xp must be nice.

[DracotheDragon]

when it comes to this mission, i noticed the multiple Debuffs things and noted that quickly but even doing this one by its own its praying to the RNG harder then any others the other rank 6 quests i have done are challenging but still coo-able with a reliable pattern, with some rng added in, this one is just in credibly challenging, to the point where i now have 176 Normal qualities and it has single handedly levels me up from 39 black smith to 40 black smith :c

i feel this one mission in preticular is a massive steep curve that has got me hating this synth due to the fact it is aimed for lower levels, but only being easily solved by being "50 in 16 crafts" (a joke about the level for this mission)

the rotation i use that seems to give me the most is

basic synth x2
inner quiet
waste not
stady hand
hasty touch (until 15 durability)
ruination (to regain cp)
(if enough cp to spare and not on good or excalant) observe
Standerd touch
basic synth (to complete)

this gives me up to 13% max (assuming all of them were normals) with goods i can get 18% and with 1 excilant (if at the right time) 22%



also not gonna lie but everyone who gives help using lvl 50 skills it kinda makes me laugh sometimes when i ask friends and they say to use lvl 50 skills even after i tell them i am lvl 15 on everything but blacksmith and they go on talking about lvl 50 skills XD

but yea as i said in my opening post, this one quest makes me feel quite bad in crafting and it is costing me a lot of gil to replace the shards i am losing fast with this :c