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  1. #941
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    First thing just a quick explanation: Me and my brother's share an account. The one used was our first character but after obtaining SMN we decided to make our own separate characters. I main a Hyur Male SCH now, and I just recently hit level 50.

    So I have two stories, both of which occurred earlier today sadly enough.

    The first story takes place in Sastasha, a dungeon I have never had trouble in before and half-AFK in because Eos can easily keep up with the healing. Well, right when the first fight started I REALLY looked at the tank. I was shocked. He was running ~lvl 8 equipment and had 277 HP and went to below 150 every attack. Its not that he was going to die (my heals were hitting for 170+ and Eos was healing, constantly, for ~120 but the fact that I had to run the entirety of Sastasha without being able to DPS (except the random Bios here and there) kind of upset me. It was a VERY slow run (especially since he HAD to do a full one) and even the boss actually needed me to pay attention for once (halving the tanks health in one swing). It was a change, for sure, but it wasn't one that I would say I enjoyed. It wasn't just that he was weak, it was the fact that everyone else could tank better than him, even Eos, but he never stopped using Flash. It wasn't his first time doing the dungeon either.

    The second story, surprisingly, does not include the tank as the object of annoyance but a monk. I did Low Level Duty Roulette (For Healer Bonus Gil) and landed in Dzemael Darkhold. I was excited, I love this dungeon and have ran threw it many times since I unlocked it. I could tell right away that I wouldn't be able to rely 100% on Eos heals and go Cleric stance this run (Tank had <4000 HP) which is fine, I just knew it was going to be slower, and after checking his equipment (ilvls <40 on average) the tank was going to need me to heal them almost exclusively on some of the bigger pulls. The Tank mentioned that he KNEW he wasn't strong enough to do a speed run, I told him that it was fine and that I was up for whatever. The BLM and MNK said they've done it before and they were fine with that.

    Well, it went fine for the most part until the first boss, this is when I knew the monk was going to be a problem. I have never had trouble with the All-Seeing Eye before this run, not ever. Even on my first run I was in Cleric stance DPSing with the rest of them to take it down faster to get on with the dungeon. Well, no luck this time. Not only did the monk seem to be allergic to the crystal's light but they would stand around after the light dimmed for a few seconds and attack the mobs and boss outside of the light. Needless to say I spent 80% of the boss healing the monk, and positioning myself so they were in my line of sight. It was madness.

    So after that we moved onto the toads and things room. With the high damage of the mobs in this section I knew that the Tank was going to need my attention. Well... after the first group, the tank accidentally pulled the next two frogs with a few other mobs, should have been fine really, heal intensive but fine. Well the monk decided that they would run around to the other side of the wall and not only get hit by the toad AoE but also the crystal blast. I switch to try to heal them without noticing that they were out of sight. So I had to move, by this time I had to heal the tank. I threw a physick at the tank quickly but the monk ended up also pulling the remaining mobs and the tank flashed. And wiped.

    The Ogre boss was as it usually goes, dodging and healing. That is until the monk started getting hit by fire and fist. One Physick and they were down. Then I lagged and died from two fire balls. Embarrassing, but the BLM and Tank finished the boss quickly.

    It was uneventful until the boss of the dungeon. Both the monk and tank took hefty damage from this bosses PBAoE, and I had to switch between them. Even with Sacred Soil down the monk was losing health fast. The Tank was steady. I was worried, because this was phase one, I knew someone was going to die in phase 2. And they did, the monk, in all their glory, died almost instantly when the boss placed down the landmines. As if the monk was attracted to them he stepped on two in succession then got Lasered. Swiftcast-Resurrection and then we were able to take the boss out eventually.

    It was insane, and I have never had such a bad run of the Darkhold before. Granted the monk could have been lagging, but with how things went and how much they enjoyed zipping around in combat makes me find it hard to believe.
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  2. #942
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    Neoxn's Avatar
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    Ryusuke Yabusame
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 83
    Even though I don't main healer, I have WHM and Scholar at 50 with some pre-Coil 2 runs done and I've actually only really had one vaguely memorable healing story. It wasn't really that bad, but I was in Aurum Vale on my Scholar and the tank took 8-9 stacks of debuffs on the first boss and 6 stacks of barbs on the last boss. I don't think they knew they had to cleanse the debuffs or something...I somehow managed to heal through the first boss without anyone dying, but the tank was a lost case with 6 stacks on the last boss, so he died and one of the melee just tanked instead. We finished with the melee tanking it. I didn't explain the cleansing in mid-fight on the last boss, since the party was Japanese and I didn't have time to type it in Japanese.

    I was surprised by the amount of people who dislike Aurum Vale when I read this thread though. That one is my most favorite sub-50 dungeon, and I love it the most on a healer, haha. Plus the exp gain from killing hatched seedlings is insane.
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    Last edited by Neoxn; 09-05-2014 at 06:18 PM.

  3. #943
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    SummerRider's Avatar
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    Summer Rider
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Neoxn View Post
    I was surprised by the amount of people who dislike Aurum Vale when I read this thread though. That one is my most favorite sub-50 dungeon
    That's the reason people hate it. When they are forced to run it at 50.

    -- They don't need XP
    -- They don't have access to their "end of line" skills.
    -- Their gear all get's lowered (synced).

    It's like your so close to your goal you can almost touch it, but you know no matter how hard you try it's out of your reach.
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  4. #944
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Dunno about anyone else, but I just hate it because I've had a shit ton of terrible experiences with it when I first started out (definitely not so bad any more, but I still hate it's guts) - unlucky moments, inexperienced parties, no one eating the fruits and my heals not able to keep up with that damage across the board, etcetcetc - Unless it was much more difficult roughly 10ish months ago (not quite a year, but a long time ago) and not so many 50'd people back then. I don't have any of that bad luck, now, but it's like going into a HM or EX for the first time with a bad party or unlucky run - the name alone gets associated with 'bad'/'terrible'... and then it sticks.
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  5. #945
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    Defteros's Avatar
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    Character
    Derek Hale
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Aurum Vale was, and still is, a nightmare to heal as a scholar.
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  6. #946
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    Ampersand Kai
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Yeah, AV itself is (mostly) fine, it's just got a high rate of failure with DF parties.

    For me, in the early patches, it was also the only place where I got the make-you-look-stupid kind of lag. I don't know why. I can run Titan HM, Titan Ex, Ultima HM without having their patterns memorized; my connection is good enough that I can just react, and that's been the case since 2.0. Never had to pre-move or any of that stuff. But with the cyclops in AV, I'd run into the stupid, terrible lag that screws people over so much. I'd be pre-moving, all the way across the room, well out of the danger zone for a second or more sometimes, and still be getting hit. That part's better now, so it's just a matter of the rest of the party.
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  7. #947
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    But with the cyclops in AV, I'd run into the stupid, terrible lag that screws people over so much. I'd be pre-moving, all the way across the room, well out of the danger zone for a second or more sometimes, and still be getting hit. That part's better now, so it's just a matter of the rest of the party.
    I still have that, with the coin counter and his gaze thing.
    "Ohshit it turned around *Runs halfway across the room, pe-emptively* I'm a mile away, now, I should be fi-*FWAP*... I don't know what I was expecting -_-"
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  8. #948
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    Dion Fortune
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I have that same problem too! I think he targets healers on purpose, because I swear, no one ever gets the paralyzed debuff from that fight except me! D:


    I recently pugged an end-game dungeon for the myths and got the Ultimate Weapon. I think this end-game dungeon is the absolute easiest - I feel like I don't have to heal through any of the boss fights (not constantly anyway) until Ultima, even if there are newbies. On this one though, we nearly wiped at the first boss instance! I don't think any of the DPS knew what to do with the magic hand things, and quite a few people didn't know the outside part was electric. We made it through with no deaths, but I was shocked that we almost wiped.
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  9. #949
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    EricCartmenez's Avatar
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    Veronica Venom
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    I think he targets ME! Whether tank, healer or DPS, I get hit by that SOB every time over and over and over again!

    I know I hate AV because there still tends to be a large number of people at that level who don't really worry much about their gear. When I pug this, I usually find one person who has level 40 or less gear! Ran it over the last weekend and the healer was complaining that her gear was breaking. Really? You don't visit a mender or mind your stuff regularly? She had level 90 and up gear and everything was broke. She quit before we got to the Cyclopse. Then we got a healer who acted like a 6 year old at every trash mob, so he kited all of them and we had to handle it like we were shooting ducks at a carnival. Just glad I got through it.

    To my surprise and dismay, I got AV in my Thyrus atma book right after that! Wouldn't have mattered, I was DPS for that fight, but come on! As the song goes: Here I go again!
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  10. #950
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sulwyn Caliope
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Not really a horror story but a "I WANT TO FLIP ALL THE TABLES" story. So I've been farming Garuda ex for weeks now for the mount. Most of my garuda ex runs have been super smooth today but my last run just now... Everything went fine until the sisters popped during the X formation tornadoes. On my server, Tonberry, we normally do the triangle method. So I was expecting the OT to grab suparna and run to the usual place. Instead though, he grabbed chirada and ran to where the DPS was. I was half asleep at this point and automatically placed dots on suparna coz I normally DPS about half this fight.

    Next thing I'm realizing I have aggro on suparna. Luckily I had the presence of mind to pull suparna away from chirada and took her to the correct place. The other sch with me was panicking a bit at this point and was spamming all his heals on me. I figured that I'd tank her till chirada died. Instead though, I ended up tanking suparna and then garuda for the rest of the fight. (With how overgeared people are, she only lasted until a bit after we moved back to the middle.) I ended up eating a wicked wheel to the face and survived somehow. XD; Anyway so we win and proceed to open the chest and of course a nightmare whistle drops and of course the dumb tank takes it. It was an english tank too because he was typing in english earlier and when I confronted him about not grabbing suparna, he won the whistle and immediately left. Someone kill me now.

    Also, SCH OP KTHX
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