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  1. #1
    Player
    Aravix's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aravix Shatterheart
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by reckless76 View Post
    Lol. that's what made this guy so frustrating. He was using a HEALING Limit Break, at the beginning of the boss fight. And immediately starting up Mage Ballad when I still had full MP, gimping his DPS and using up all his MP so it wasn't there in the event I DID need it. Guess the story does sound kinda unbelievable, but it really is true. I think this guy was trolling/effing with us. I truly hope no one could be that dense.
    This is the most amazing BRD I've seen.

    Everyone should start recording these moments and put unfitting music on it.
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    BrodyAlgana's Avatar
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    Brody Algana
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Speed runs in WP make people stupid. They think they have to pick up a certain amount of groups. My philosophy is, if you are the tank and running to pick up groups, do so until you start taking damage, then STOP. Once you start taking damage, if you keep running, I cant heal you with Cure 1 or 2 as you will get out of range before it goes off, AND I can't cast regen, or will get mega aggro from the groups you are running to. I have found even Swiftcast + Cure 1 or 2 or stoneskin usually ends up with me with aggro. Remember, it isn't a speed run if we wipe cause you took too much damage before you stopped so I could heal you.
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liadan Summerfield
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BrodyAlgana View Post
    Speed runs in WP make people stupid. They think they have to pick up a certain amount of groups. My philosophy is, if you are the tank and running to pick up groups, do so until you start taking damage, then STOP. Once you start taking damage, if you keep running, I cant heal you with Cure 1 or 2 as you will get out of range before it goes off, AND I can't cast regen, or will get mega aggro from the groups you are running to. I have found even Swiftcast + Cure 1 or 2 or stoneskin usually ends up with me with aggro. Remember, it isn't a speed run if we wipe cause you took too much damage before you stopped so I could heal you.
    This is why I don't do speed runs. xD My groups still generally finish in under 25 minutes. Sometimes faster!
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BrodyAlgana View Post
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    Eh, I do 15-20min WP all the time (WAR and PLD, WAR a little slower and not as serious though), and this works well:

    Stay close to the tank (sprint if needed)
    When he gets close to his last pull, Divine Seal and Regen. Then Cure 2 at least twice (tank needs to be as close to full HP as possible here, so maybe a third if needed), Swiftcast Holy (you should be close to the tank all the time, but out of AoEs), Cleric Stance, Holy twice, CS off, heal as normal. Pop Shroud if its up sometime during this. Pop Presence if you absolutely have to (last pull is a good one to use it on). I rarely, if ever, have to use Benediction.


    I rarely take aggro, but I also run with these tanks all the time and we have it down. As for gear, the WAR are DL/Relic, PLD is in some i90 (Coil-ready) and I'm in i70/Relic. The DPS are often better geared than me.
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    Sirantha's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Sirantha Swift
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Ran WP the other day and the tank wanted to do a speed run. I'd done a few before, and I'm getting better at DPSing and using Holy in WP to make the run go faster. I figured, this is cool, we got this. Literally my first Holy, the tank lost agro of the entire group. I kept up the Holy casting because they were stunned, I wasn't taking damage, and even with diminishing returns they were dropping fast enough that it was fine. But then the tank got angry and asked me to stop. So I did. I kept him alive, and switched into CS when I could to DoT the groups. Still pulled agro. He got angry at me again and told me firmly to stop DPSing. So I did. I waited til he got agro of the next group after that, then started healing as I normally would. Literally my first Cure and I pulled agro again. Sadface.

    Nothing bad happened, it was just annoying because the tank was getting frustrated and literally nothing I did seemed to help. For reference, I wasn't the only one getting agro, the DPS were too. He was getting annoyed at them as well.
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    Daeva's Avatar
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    Character
    Hopeless Desire
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    As I was leveling up BLM I never really had to many gripes with healers aside from a few bad ones during Titan story mode and HM, but it was mostly just bad tanks. After I got my relic +1 I decided to level up Arcanist for SCH. So I was running dungeons as a SCH leveling up and learning the job thinking this is a breeze then I get to AV. I had problems my first time running this as a BLM pulling extra monsters and blaming it on the other BLM there, but I thought this was goin to be cake.... Get to the first boss, Eos gets wiped out, tank is taking really heavy damage... dps is poisoned and losing health constantly, I get whipped by the boss and die. I say I'm sorry and we try 2 more times and just couldn't keep everyone healed enough. On the 3rd time I get whipped and die again..... Had to leave without a single word out of sheer embarrassment.
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    ddl's Avatar
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    Character
    Emily Rosewood
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Don't feel bad...I think this is almost every sch experience with AV.
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    Jinrya-Geki's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Jinrya Geki
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I helped a linkshell member with Baby Garuda... I noticed the party was 3 DDs and a tank. So I asked who is whm?

    ... I was. So I switched to Whm... and we wiped a lot. I haven't touch whm since 1.0. So I spamming cure IIIs, cause I have no idea what the hell I am doing.

    Find out cure Is give free cure. But I can't maintain my MP and we wiped atleast like 10 times and finally won.

    I hated myself so much.
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    Aprus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Guennivere Witte
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I'm still a little nooblet, but thusfar it's been the end boss of TMT. Seems like DPS/Tank thinks I can tank the adds and heal everyone at the same time without going splat. 1 add maybe, 2 adds no.
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Character
    Ainslie Tinley
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Swear_Bear View Post
    Tank: Well, I just watched a video on how to do a Speed Run. Looks pretty easy.

    In my head, I'm going, "Oh shit... here we go..." as I watch the 3 of them charge off into the sunset.
    Oh my...how did that end?*_* Sounds like a creepy horror story lol
    Also, love your signature!


    Oh also a new one. The other did WP with premade, comes out one of the dps is a new 50 and has only run it once. Ok no problem, we explain everything. We get at King. He asks if the other dps is gonna do the adds, since in the other experience he wasn't the one doing them. The other dps answers that no, that HE should be the one doing them and explains all the reasons in detail. We start the fight, nobody is killing adds, so we keep writing hi to kill adds but absolutely nothing, and he finally wakes up is too late and we wipe. At our complaints he says he was thought it wasn't his task, and then turns out he didn't read all the explaination and all because the LS chat was scrolling too fast so he couldn't pay attention to party chat....:/
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