Utsusemi?

[kyuven]

Cross will likely be PUG and THM.
But I want it to be WAR and GLD for my own evil purposes.

Personally my vote would be PGL and ARC. Namely because a lot of the ARC skills fit thematically (quelling strikes, venomous bite, etc.) Although who's to say they'll handle distribution the same way they do the current classes?
I'd also be giddy if ROG got a passive trait that allowed their DEX to be used in place of STR for melee damage. After all, it makes ZERO sense for a friggin ROGUE to dump DEX. It's like stock car racing with sherman tanks.

[silentwindfr]

if they decide to not make the ROG use the same armor than the PGL i will be really angry, the armor for the ARC are not good in design for a class jumping around...
and it will means that the ROG will not have acces to the fuma armor from CT... and believe me i will be extremely angry if that happend (and i'm sure i'm not the only one)

other point, the recent video of the anniversary event have show us something important, the class is clearly a melee oriented one. meaning STR is them main stats, no reason to decide suddenly to change how the stats work for... i don't see why actually.

[kyuven]

if they decide to not make the ROG use the same armor than the PGL i will be really angry, the armor for the ARC are not good in design for a class jumping around...
and it will means that the ROG will not have acces to the fuma armor from CT... and believe me i will be extremely angry if that happend (and i'm sure i'm not the only one)

I can say with a reasonable degree of certainty that anything class specific stays class specific. More than likely they won't share anything with other classes, though pre-50 they'll likely share the same armor type as ARC and PGL. For things post 50, they'll likely be getting their own armor sets.
The only real question is who they'll be sharing their jewelry with.

[silentwindfr]

some armor are shared by the jobs, like BC1, CT and ST armor, dungeon armor too are shared by different class.
the point it's knowing the main stats of the rogue/ninja. by the look of them movement and them armor, the best guess is the same armor than pgl/mnk. since both are melee class based on flexible movement.
do you see the ninja do him movement with the amon armor of the arc/brd of ST? it will look ridiculous.

ps: what bother me a bit it's the lack of information we get recently, indeed we did get some stuff while the gamecon, but most of them information are hold for the fanfest.
however, i can understand that they don't want to give information about the expansion, but next month we are in october, maybe time to give us true information about the class. i'm not the only one thinking to change of main for ninja. and tell us this sort of information can help a looot for prepare to change of main, and i will not talk of people already member of a statics that will put the static on hold for level up them new main and equip it.

[kyuven]

some armor are shared by the jobs, like BC1, CT and ST armor, dungeon armor too are shared by different class.

The only classes that share gear are the DPS casters, healers, and tanks. All of the melee DPS classes have their own independent gear, and my gut is telling me NIN will be the same, especially since the information we've been given leads me to believe they have different "needs" than MNK does. Namely, the class might end up using DEX over STR, which means they get their own set.

the point it's knowing the main stats of the rogue/ninja. by the look of them movement and them armor, the best guess is the same armor than pgl/mnk. since both are melee class based on flexible movement.
do you see the ninja do him movement with the amon armor of the arc/brd of ST?

Again you're assuming they won't have their own set of gear. What better way to revitalize old content than by adding new gear for the new class?

[ForteXX]

I could see Utsusemi working the way it does in Ragnarok Online (perhaps modified).

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Mirror_Image (RO's Utsusemi)
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Killing_Stroke (Connected skill)

For RO, the first skill gave the ability to dodge the next 1-5 hits you would take, and the 2nd one would hit once, and then again for every dodge you still had left.
For FFXIV, I could see it maybe... increase dodge by 50%, but only stays in effect for 30s, or until youve dodged a few times (maybe 2-3), with a later skill (level 50 one) giving a strong attack that does more, or hits multiple times, based on the remaining dodges.

[silentwindfr]

Dragoon/Monk/Bard either don't use the same main stats or the same type of armor.

Dragoon: Chainmail and STR
Monk: Leather and STR
Bard: Leather and DEX

why i think they will not always have the same armor? because they reused the same skin for many class, like the soldiery bard/monk armor that the same model.
other point, create new content for already outdated content it's bad, it's overtime work for them since they focus mainly to introduce new content. the smartest move is to use already present armor and allows them to share with the other. just reminder, they have all the dungeon with specific armor like BC/BC2/CT/ST/all the dungeon introducing new armor (previous expert one).

indeed they will have special armor for them like the AF, but for the most commons armor, they will share it with someone. like said in the 2.1 quest, they use leather armor. then it will be either bard or monk armor. since they are melee the logical guess is STR. DEX are not more agile and swift, but more precise and accurate. the video of the anniversary event have show us this, they are agile and swift... like the monk.

however, i can't take out this doubt that they will screw us and decide to do the same error than with the monk at the V1 and create a class/jobs that will ask weird stats combinaison (in the V1 monk was STR/INT). hybrid stats are never good, because you can't reach the same level than the other that more specialized.
anyway, the point it's soo far, we know nothing from a class/jobs coming in the next monk. and some question can be already answered but was left out for whatever the reason they have. and i'm scared that we will get the same effect than with the hunt, something that look nice until we try it and see that it's unfinished or unbalanced.

ps: about the cross skill, i dunno, but yeah ARC/PGL seems the safest choice.
and for utsusemi i guess we look too much into it... it will be a saving move nothing more, people must'nt expect to be able to tank as ninja hehe.

[Linadae]

Only way I will support this is if it works like Quelling Strikes. "Support your local healers, say NO to Ninja tanks!"

[ispano]

Again you're assuming they won't have their own set of gear. What better way to revitalize old content than by adding new gear for the new class?

Since they did say to keep your melee DD gear around.

Developers can be weird. I'm not saying they couldn't include ROG on the same list as MNK, but remember that they could easily be referring to pre-50 and handmade gear. You know, the gear already shared between MNK and BRD? It's kind of a no brainer that NIN will be using that gear as well at least until 50.

The keyword though is "melee". They literally used the word melee. STR affects physical melee damage.

[Rubieus]

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