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  1. #31
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    StateAlchemist's Avatar
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    State Alchemist
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    Please correct me if I am wrong but the OP is talking about Syrcus Tower right?

    Cause asking them to increase penalty in that case is silly.

    Example situation: You get one drop a week. Do ST, get drop, leave immediately, go do hunts. Oh wait there's a queue penalty? Didn't even notice.

    So in other words...what's the point? The people that do it don't care, and no penalty will make them care.
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  2. #32
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    Makado's Avatar
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    Makado Kitase
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    Do you get angry at your party when no one lots any loot and everyone just rolls on the oil at the end as well when everyone stays? I leave when I get a new piece of glamour loot. That's all ST is for me. I have no need to spend more time in the dungeon then I need to and there are plenty of people eager to fill my in progress spot I left open.

    Trying to force me to waste my time so you can have a POSSIBLE small increased chance at an oil or tomestone is the selfish thing.
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  3. #33
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    It's not a selfless move on the person who leaves. They're not doing it with the aim of helping others. They just see it as they got what they wanted and are now done.
    Perfectly said.
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  4. #34
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    I dunno if this is actually much of a problem. Given the number of withdrawls when I attempt to enter ST, it's clear that folks are LINING UP to join partial runs, so it should never take long to replenish a lost member - and even if it does take a while, most if not all the fights can be completed even missing a healer or tank. When a member drops out, that leaves room for someone else to join and lot items that might otherwise be wasted.

    Aside from VERY rare instances where a ton of people drop and it really does cripple the run, honestly this seems like it's a win situation for the one that drops, a win for the one that joins to replace them, and only a mild inconvenience for the players continuing the run.

    I've never dropped a run, and don't plan to. The Myth and Soldiery are too useful to me, and I honestly enjoy the fights. But I really don't see folks that drop after winning drops in ST to be an issue issue worth bothering the devs over, not like it would be in a 4-man or 8-man instance where their loss is much more keenly felt.
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  5. #35
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    Loody's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Perfectly said.
    For someone who doesn't care what people who oppose you say you seem to be quite adamant on waxing your own opinion over and over.

    Anyway, whether or not they intended to help someone else by leaving isn't the point. As someone who has gotten the bulk of my runs as in-progress, I can safely say I've benefited from people leaving. And while I wouldn't go as far as to paint loot&leavers as considerably selfless or considerate, they are most definitely less selfish than someone who wants to lock people out of their run just because they don't want potential extra competition on their looting.
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  6. #36
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    Carson Warson
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    The way I see it, if someone gets their loot and leaves, that's better than them staying if it means someone else will join that might take the loot that typically drops to the floor. That way, everyone has more chances to get loot, and that's a good thing right?
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  7. #37
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    The way I see it, if someone gets their loot and leaves, that's better than them staying if it means someone else will join that might take the loot that typically drops to the floor. That way, everyone has more chances to get loot, and that's a good thing right?
    Not according to the OP because now they still have that extra person to potentially roll against them for oil. Instead of one less if the person stayed.
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  8. #38
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    @Loody

    Welcome to the forums. Many people here have strong opinions on various aspects of the game, and state them multiple times. This is nothing new. I'm sure at some point, you've done the same thing yourself. Now, have a nice day.
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  9. #39
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    I actually consider it a courtesy when people leave after getting loot, especially DPS who have longer ques, they get an in progress and a chance at some loot they wouldn't have otherwise had.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    @Loody

    Welcome to the forums. Many people here have strong opinions on various aspects of the game, and state them multiple times. This is nothing new. I'm sure at some point, you've done the same thing yourself. Now, have a nice day.
    I think his point is more that, if you don't care what other people think, and are still very vocal about your opinions, people are inclined to take the same stance. Not caring what you think. You basically invite them to it.
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