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    Player
    Odd's Avatar
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Increase the Penalty For Those Who Leave After Getting Loot

    It's hard enough to get an Oil from ST. Even harder when the whole party is rolling on it, because all 3 people who got loot from the prior bosses left immediately after getting said loot. This exact scenario happened last night to me.

    Maybe they would think twice about pulling this truly douchey move if the penalty for this was was, say, 4 hours?

    Don't tell me not to roll on items to prevent this. I will in the future, but that's not the point. The people leaving right after getting loot are 100% jerks, and the game should have a system in place to stop them.
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    Makado Kitase
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    The 30 minutes is fair. Even if you made it 10 hours people would just do it and go do something else. You can hunt, do Atma, craft, beast dailies...we don't need people making topics whining because they lost a piece of loot. Everyone has to deal with the same thing.
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    The 30 minutes is fair. Even if you made it 10 hours people would just do it and go do something else. You can hunt, do Atma, craft, beast dailies...we don't need people making topics whining because they lost a piece of loot. Everyone has to deal with the same thing.
    Not if the debuff for leaving a group early prevents you from getting seals, atma, and other rewards. Would stop people leaving mid dungeon for Rank S's as well. This way if someone rage quits a dungeon, they really do have to logoff and cool off for the time period since they won't get credit for anything during the time.
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Not if the debuff for leaving a group early prevents you from getting seals, atma, and other rewards. Would stop people leaving mid dungeon for Rank S's as well. This way if someone rage quits a dungeon, they really do have to logoff and cool off for the time period since they won't get credit for anything during the time.
    that would completely destroy any reason to join the instance at all. people pay to play, you pay for me, you can tell me what i can and cant do, dont punish me when i dont play the way you want me to. thats an even harsher and unreasonable punishment than the OP.

    so, let me ask you, have you ever left any instance, for any reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    that would completely destroy any reason to join the instance at all. people pay to play, you pay for me, you can tell me what i can and cant do, dont punish me when i dont play the way you want me to. thats an even harsher and unreasonable punishment than the OP.

    so, let me ask you, have you ever left any instance, for any reason?
    When I killed the last boss. Sure.

    You get to play how you wish, when you solo. When you group up with 3 or 7 other players, you make a commitment to them. The penalty exists for that reason. The penalty just isn't harsh enough to actually work.

    You're free to make a new character and play that while the debuff runs though. That way you can play your way.
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Archer Lv 50
    What can you do really? You cant hold the loot until the end of the dungeon because ... people will whine about it since its obviously going to inconvenience honest players as well who may run with a guild that doesnt mind or maybe had a real emergency. Cant really just up the penalty time for the same reasons. Not to mention any ahole can just go AFK until the others decide to vote kick so they wont get the lockout.

    Besides, yeah, theyre jerks but its not that common or that big of a deal. The world doesnt need to be perfectly fair for everyone nor can it ever be. Push to much to prevent one thing and some jerk somewhere will find a way to take advantage of it. Like what if someone wins something then gets harassed by some dude and his guild friends who feel entitled to the drop knowing if he decides to leave at that point he'll get the extra long 4 hour penalty. That sound fair?
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    Last edited by Kayo; 09-04-2014 at 03:03 AM.

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    Genesis Synn
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    I actually consider it a courtesy when people leave after getting loot, especially DPS who have longer ques, they get an in progress and a chance at some loot they wouldn't have otherwise had.
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    Sora Burakku
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    Make it so you Win your roll at the time of drop but you do not obtain your item until you exit the dungeon properly. Either through exit at the end of the run or by a vote abandon.
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Make it so you Win your roll at the time of drop but you do not obtain your item until you exit the dungeon properly. Either through exit at the end of the run or by a vote abandon.
    Would suck to get disconnected mid-dungeon with these rules.
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    Would suck to get disconnected mid-dungeon with these rules.
    which is why they will never do that
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