Increase the Penalty For Those Who Leave After Getting Loot

[Tupsi]

Do what I'd do - Don't hit pass and continue through the raid, that way if your group isn't fail you'll be pushing through the bosses while the loot is still present in pool since the treasure pool can hold iirc 5? Items total, so by time you hit Xande in ST the previous loot would have fallen.

[Kinseykinz]

I don't understand how this really hurts anyone. The player who left has to eat a penality and the player who reps them gets a shorter run. The group they join keeps moving w/ full members. If you are after a specific item and think 'damn, my chances are lessened' well:

1. If that rep player originally started w/ you, you'd have the same odds anyway
2. Sometimes people loot and scoot because they are tired of the dungeon/need to do something in RL/have an event to attend.
3. Making people wait more than 30 minutes would effect other aspects of your gameplay more than you realize. (these folk would be unable to raid/re-queue for dungeons for longer periods of time).
4. If you really want a drop, enter w/ a premade party. THAT is your best way of managing your odds in lotting.

And no, I don't tend to leave runs early even if I win a lot early on...but I don't get mad at the people who do.

Do what I'd do - Don't hit pass and continue through the raid, that way if your group isn't fail you'll be pushing through the bosses while the loot is still present in pool since the treasure pool can hold iirc 5? Items total, so by time you hit Xande in ST the previous loot would have fallen.

Yes, because holding people hostage is always a good idea. Just pass and move on. If they leave after getting the item, you likely didn't want them in your group anyway.

[Tupsi]

Yes, because holding people hostage is always a good idea. Just pass and move on. If they leave after getting the item, you likely didn't want them in your group anyway.

It doesn't hold anyone hostage, per terms you actually don't have to hit need/greed/pass at all if you don't want to.

Sometimes people loot and scoot because they are tired of the dungeon/need to do something in RL/have an event to attend.

Sometimes, but let's be real, how much more likely is it for it to be someone wanting to get their item then ditch simply to do so compared to other reasons?

If you really want a drop, enter w/ a premade party. THAT is your best way of managing your odds in lotting.

Especially now that you can go in with a full premade alliance.

Making people wait more than 30 minutes would effect other aspects of your gameplay more than you realize. (these folk would be unable to raid/re-queue for dungeons for longer periods of time).

If you ever looked at your Data Center grouping, I'm pretty sure pulling from 3-5+ servers will more than cover the people who are waiting more than 30 minutes to get back in..not that they'd be going back in after getting a weekly locked out item anyway. Not only that, but that's exactly why they made the roulette and most likely you have a LS or FC with some people willing to run stuff. So it doesn't hurt you that much in the way you're thinking. While true on rare occasions I HAVE seen a full alliance drop out when the item they wanted didn't drop or someone got it etc, but not enough to safely say you'll be hindered.

[MomomiMomi]

Yes, because holding people hostage is always a good idea. Just pass and move on. If they leave after getting the item, you likely didn't want them in your group anyway.

But people do want them in the group. That's what this whole thread is about. People who have looted means you, who are after something else that comes later in the dungeon, have a better chance at loot.

[Nikorayu]

Do what I'd do - Don't hit pass and continue through the raid, that way if your group isn't fail you'll be pushing through the bosses while the loot is still present in pool since the treasure pool can hold iirc 5? Items total, so by time you hit Xande in ST the previous loot would have fallen.

Yeah, damned be that mechanic that forces me inside the boss room... Wait. What? Said player can just wait outside the fight until the loot drops and then leave.