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  1. #11
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    erkhardt's Avatar
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    Maiyumi Moriyama
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    yeah, I could see that working. Zone lockout if a member of the party is in combat (I have rofl'ed at tanks that go boom when they pull aggro as everyone enters a transporter, "Your sacrifice will not be in vain!"). maybe one day they will implement this, but the sheer number of people that run these instances across all servers and their different views and playstyles will prevent a revamp of the content, I think. Good luck to you in your travels!
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  2. #12
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Klame View Post
    You don't seem to have a solution for the problem I raised, so it seems you didn't understand what I was complaining about. I want to be able to go in a main storyline dungeon, watch the scenes and go through the dungeon normally. The game should offer this possibility.
    I did have a solution, it was to either go with a group for the same purpose, or adjust accordingly. You choose if you want to take those suggestions or not.

    As for you unable to find friends, or anyone to help, I suggest you either shout for help, start a party finder asking for help, or get a better Free Company. Any Free Company that doesn't want to help their players isn't a Free Company I would want to be in.
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    Last edited by Jican; 09-03-2014 at 10:39 PM.

  3. #13
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    Klame Do'ddasek
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Except that roulettes were introduced because there aren't enough new players to form parties with a duty finder without taking hours long queues, and much longerif you have to find them manually. I answered to this in case you didn't read, it's not a feasible solution. By "adjusting accordingly", are you meaning to suck it up ? Because that would be the contrary of a solution.

    Thanks for your help but it doesn't help at all.
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    Last edited by Klame; 09-03-2014 at 10:47 PM.

  4. #14
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 90
    In an effort to not continue this conversation with snide remarks, I'm going to leave with this. Enjoy the game, and best of luck to you.
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  5. #15
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Restrict story to been unable to skip/make longer in anyway than no1 is going there again... Who wants to sit through an hour* long movie EVERYDAY (daily)...watching same scene forever.
    What will have is new players coming to forum complaining why it takes 2 hours to do story
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  6. #16
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    Rika Shinozaki'
    World
    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 55
    another person complaining because they didnt get their way in a dungeon. boohoo. i ran that as a monk, so as a BLM you understand the pain of dps queues. get over the fact that people speed run, its an MMO, the way its played is dictated by the players, where the instance allows. get over your feeling of entitlement. i was pissed when they skipped all CS and left me, but i realized how many times they had done it, and how long those CS were. sure, i was still pissed, but i understood. so, i re-queued and skipped CS and used my brain(the thing in that head of yours) and i figured out what happened in the story.

    if you force people to watch the CS and cater to you entitled noobs, nobody would ever do it, so you would still have you even more insane queue times, because nobody will do it.
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  7. #17
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    Klame Do'ddasek
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I perfectly know why people are speedrunning as I said in my initial post " I understand they do that for efficiency". I spent eight years on my previous MMO and I know what it is to speedrun an instance you have played many times, thank you for your explaination monochromicorn. My point is that they prevent the dungeon to be played normally at all, while the roulette for STORYLINE DUNGEONS rewards are supposed to incite advanced player to run STORYLINE DUNGEONS again, with new players.

    I already accepted the fact that current rewards might not be worth a full run and that it would thus be unfair to advanced player to prevent speedrun while keeping the rewards as it is, but this doesn't justify a ruined gameplay for new players.
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  8. #18
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Klame View Post
    I perfectly know why people are speedrunning as I said in my initial post " I understand they do that for efficiency". I spent eight years on my previous MMOand I know what it is to speedrun an instance you have played many times, thank you for your explaination monochromicorn. My point is that they prevent the dungeon to be played normally at all, while the roulette for STORYLINE DUNGEONS rewards are supposed to incite advanced player to run STORYLINE DUNGEONS again, with new players.

    I already accepted the fact that current rewards might not be worth a full run and that it would thus be unfair to advanced player to prevent speedrun while keeping the rewards as it is, but this doesn't justify a ruined gameplay for new players.
    so, the only real solution is to get rid of the roulette. if getting experienced players in story dungeons over and over, to the point where nobody is playing it the way it was made to be played, we would have to get rid of the thing allowing them to queue for those story dungeons(daily roulette, in this instance).

    and, honestly, if you can get people in your fc to join you and help you out, you have a problem. my fc helped out a new lv 50 in more ways than one. i made his relic base and melded the materia, so he could have a better weapon, we ran castrum meridianum, cape westwind, and praetorium. the only thing that came from DF was a fresh 50 OT in cape westwind, because my tank buddy wasnt on yet. get a better FC if they wont help you.
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  9. #19
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Not that I agree with this idea but an easy fix would to not let people engage bosses while someone is watching a cutscene. If there is new peeps running a dungeon i usually wait, bit if I'm not a tank it's kinda hard to get other people to wait as well.

    Not allowing the boss to be engaged while waiting on cut scenes could leave a nice door for trolls to do why they do though and just go afk during cs. Especially the ones with click to advance text boxes in them.
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    Last edited by Woggers; 09-04-2014 at 02:08 AM.

  10. #20
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    You're asking 7 other people to wait for you to watch something they have already scene multiple times. You're also asking those 7 people to slow down when the off chance they haven't had a new person in run in about a week. If your FC won't do it switch FC's if you don't have friends then create a party finder and shout. It's how a lot of people get the clears they are looking for.
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