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  1. #21
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    This thread just turned into another testament of how toxic this comunity is. Not even an amateur fanmade video can be here without people trashing it, not contructive critisism but pure trashing.
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    He asked for feedback. What are you not allowed to say anything unless it's praising it as the finest piece of cinematography ever made? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
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    Well, I do suppose everyone needs to start somewhere.

    Long as he keeps on learning and practicing.
    Study recording and video editing techniques. Consider what songs reflect appropriately on the game/show and show how they complement each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abed_Nego View Post
    Truth been told while this game may become huge the way SE is doing it is killing it. 3-4 months for patches, lack of an epic storyline like in ffxi. Too short event quests etc. They truly turning this game into an unfun game. Thats why many people quiting.
    Are you serious? They are coughing up a HUGE patch every 3 months and you are still complaining? How much work do you think it requires to release a new version? I have no idea what you expect them to do but from my point of view they are working really hard on this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBones View Post
    Are you serious? They are coughing up a HUGE patch every 3 months and you are still complaining? How much work do you think it requires to release a new version? I have no idea what you expect them to do but from my point of view they are working really hard on this game.
    Working hard? Maybe. But even if they are, that doesnt mean the work they are producing is good. And rehashing current dungeons to a "HM" version is taking the easy route since most of the work is already done.

    They keep taking ideas that could be wonderful and fun and turning them into painful, annoying things that are no fun at all imho.

    If FFXIV is the "new era of MMOs".... then I'm scared for the future of MMO's in general, esp if any new ones use FFXIV as a template... <shudder>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Well, I do suppose everyone needs to start somewhere.

    Long as he keeps on learning and practicing.
    Study recording and video editing techniques. Consider what songs reflect appropriately on the game/show and show how they complement each other.
    Agreed..everyone has to start somewhere, and Katsuki...don't be afraid to post your stuff...most of the time you will get honest feedback...along with the trolls who like to do their thing and tear people down...and also the harsh no holds barred criticism, don't take the harsh criticisms to heart, and don't let the troll deter you from doing what you like, over time you'll get better and better, and once you make a really great AMV you can look back on your earlier stuff with amusement, nostalgia and a little embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    I can't imagine anyone complaining more than the English forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    Working hard? Maybe. But even if they are, that doesnt mean the work they are producing is good. And rehashing current dungeons to a "HM" version is taking the easy route since most of the work is already done.

    They keep taking ideas that could be wonderful and fun and turning them into painful, annoying things that are no fun at all imho.

    If FFXIV is the "new era of MMOs".... then I'm scared for the future of MMO's in general, esp if any new ones use FFXIV as a template... <shudder>
    If you don't like the game then why are you playing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    If you don't like the game then why are you playing it?
    I don't think that criticizing the developers when they produce sloppy work (as they have these last few patches) equals hating a game. In fact, it's rather the opposite. Without this feedback, SE doesn't know what they are doing wrong and the result is 1.0 that crashed and burned. The people who love the game the most are often the ones who have the harshest criticism. They feel they have a personal stake in the game's success.

    Trust me, there are people who don't like the game. They aren't playing it. There's tens of millions of them. They won't help the game improve. They won't offer suggestions and advice. They won't wait and watch the patch notes to see what's coming next. They will be playing the games that they do like, and opening their wallets to those developers. SE's mission is to change their minds, but they can't do that if they don't know what it is about FFXIV those players dislike in the first place.

    So, stop trying to chase people off. We all want a better game. There's much room for improvement, even if the game has come a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I don't think that criticizing the developers when they produce sloppy work (as they have these last few patches) equals hating a game.
    No but saying something like this -

    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    If FFXIV is the "new era of MMOs".... then I'm scared for the future of MMO's in general, esp if any new ones use FFXIV as a template... <shudder>
    Certainly makes it seem like the person doesn't like the game.

    That and that they attempt to denounce that the team is working hard. That's just disrespectful. Calling the hard mode dungeons rehashes is also a blatant lie too. The hard modes are barely like their normal mode counterparts aside from using the same environment assets because it's supposed to be the same dungeon.
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    Last edited by Amused; 09-03-2014 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    No but saying something like this -

    Certainly makes it seem like the person doesn't like the game.

    That and that they attempt to denounce that the team is not working hard. That's just disrespectful. Calling the hard mode dungeons rehashes is also a blatant lie too. The hard modes are barely like their normal mode counterparts aside from using the same environment assets because it's supposed to be the same dungeon.
    Using the same environment and assets saves them tons of work. AKA, its the easy way out to add content. And thus, my statement holds about them not working so hard. If they were, we'd get entirely new content, not rehashing of old content. Taking the existing dungeon, changing the path and monsters is not what I'd call working hard.

    A lot of the work they do is sloppy and poorly implemented (Hunts), and the rest is taking something fun (GW2 Vista's) and making it into something annoying and "unfun" (SE adds weather and time requirements to it and shoves it out the door).

    They add new crafting things that are only doable by those who are filthy rich, preventing players without a small fortune from participating. They add nice new swimsuits, then lock them behind ultra rare chances to get, whereas other MMO's make such things easy, and fun to get.

    I stand by my comments. SE may be working, but I dont see it as working hard with how much re-use they do of old material, and they certainly dont put out a lot of good content when they keep making every little thing a grind or exclusive to the filthy rich.
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